The Owners - FSG

Not what I’ve read - The instigators are RM and Utd… Not saying we aren’t playing an active role though.

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I don’t actually see how that matters? It would continue with or without us, there are 11 other teams involved. If it does go ahead is it better to be involved or not? Not involved and can pretty much kiss goodbye to being a competitive team in anything but the domestic cups. How could we hope to win a league or retain our best players if we weren’t involved? 5 other teams in our league earning hundreds of millions more than us?

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I think most of the club chairmen will be President or Vice Presidents or Chairman or Vice Chairmen or Executive Chairman, or CEO or other such title.

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I am fully in support of this move - as long as the new ESL gets rid of fucking VAR.

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Fully supportive of the owners on this issue. If there is going to be a European Super League (that includes the top clubs in the world) we should be front and centre part of it.

If it fails to get off the ground??? Well… we are in good company with the other top clubs in the world. Surely UEFA can’t ban all the top clubs from competition if the ESL doesn’t fly? That would only provide more motivation to make sure the ESL doesn’t fail.

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Definitely not in favour of becoming a franchise like the US sports. The whole joy of the champions league is earning your right to play there to begin with.

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That change has already been put in by UEFA for the CL. It’d be near impossible for these 12 teams to not qualify for CL anymore.

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This is very true whether we wanted to be apart of it or not once United and the other other big 6 signed on we had no other option or we face being on the outside looking in.

Also have no issue with Henry being involved at a high level if this is going to happen I’d rather we had a high level position in how it all works.

Still dont like it, at least in its current form but think there is plenty of water to go under the bridge yet.

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I hate this argument that we’d get left out if we didn’t join. Like our owners are as virtuous as their PR spin would lead you to believe, and it’s the other club’s fault. This is the culmination of billionaire greed and elitism and our owners are part of it. Look after ourselves and fuck everyone else. Makes a mockery of YNWA.

I know football sold it’s soul to money long ago, but there has to be a line somewhere? Some principles remaining from the history of the club? Fair competition where Leicester or West Ham have the chance of playing at the top level. Would nobody miss seeing us play Dortmund, Ajax or Napoli?

I don’t get it. Sad times

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Also as it looks now 5 teams from the whole of Europe and they will be “invited” sorry if it was more based on competition then I’d be for it, it stinks as it looks.

So far as I know Dortmund were invited and so far have not joined. The other clubs you mention could earn a place, just like current ECL qualification.

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You’d imagine they would be invited on the basis of having been successful in the previous season.

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20% of the posts in this thread came in last 18 hours. :muscle:

They certainly know how to be the talk of the town. :clap:

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Think being left behind is/was a very real consideration. Not saying its why we did it by any means we may have been primary drivers behind all of this. FSG already own the NESN(new england sports network) so they would know the business as well as any of the parties involved.

But it has happened before United jumped into the Premier League revolution whilst we when half arsed and look how long it has taken is to get back to being a consistent threat for the league and Europe every season.

We more or less had no option. The intial club payment is in the order of $350 million to be a part of the ESL. Would we want all our rivals getting that kind of free money injection and us not getting it. Let alone they then all play in an elite comp we arent a part of.

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All the journos saying that the PL clubs with US owners were the primary drivers

There is only 5 spots though and there is no guarantee, say 2 PL take that up, then 2 from Spain and 1 from Italy.

If this new european competition does manage to take off then i would think in no time at all we would see double the amount of teams taking part,most of who are already in the current CL competition year in year out.The top clubs could have done this better but i think the result still would have proved pretty much the same.

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Yeah but there’s no reason why it can’t expand in time. I’d prefer our club to be in at the start of this and a permanent member of an NFL style setup. We all watch football for the entertainment value of it, I think the ESL will bring more enjoyment and entertainment for the fans of the participating teams. Its that simple for me. The other stuff about the other clubs and the fairytale / underdog stories is a red herring imo. Its up to the other clubs to earn their right to be one of the world’s elite clubs, same as we did. Sticking a finger in the eye of the FA / EPL who have been down on LFC for years is just an added bonus. This year’s officiating has been disgraceful, and now we know what was really behind it.

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I think all the corruption and disgraceful antics at EUFA and FIFA started this a long time ago. They have expanded the CL to the point of exhaustion. People want to see the best play the best. Not league 2 standard teams playing Real Madrid.

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But this doesn’t change that? The commitment is to remain in the domestic league? What will change? Perez in charge instead of some bloke from a marketing company… whoopee.

As for expansion, yes it should be in the opening documents, there is no guarantee that Henry will spend any money on this club or do anything fan friendly, in fact he could sell us tomorrow and keep his place.