The Owners - FSG

[cynicaloldgit]

@Klopptimist

You have to ask?

Can never tell with you duplicitous Tory wankers.

[Klopptimist]

Hey, I’m no Tory, I’m just to the right of Thatcher

[cynicaloldgit]

So is most of the Conservative Party nowadays.

I actually used to vote Conservative when John Major was in charge, but that is a long time ago…

[Limiescouse]

@mattyhurst

Question to American’s do clubs in the NFL carry a local support? I know the Yankees are effectively a brand and if you mentioned Geritt Cole to someone wearing a Yankee cap they would wonder if you are just weird, I can’t really tell from the rest of Baseball but without the amount of games I assume local following is quite high.

NFL however is a different beast, considering it’s one game a week and now you are getting games over here, Baseball plays 160 games a season so moving two to London isn’t a big thing but NFL must be.

I think it is in the process of changing. Traditionally support for all teams was very localized due to regional TV rights deals. Especially for baseball, you were a fan of the team who had a TV distribution deal to your region, and that wasn’t always the closest big city to you.

I think that is shifting because of two factors though. Americans arent so limited in what games are shown as they were (although there are still regional differences…you might not be able to watch too many Lakers games if you live on the east coast) meaning there is far more opportunity to follow a team that isnt your local one. But I think with IG we’re moving into a very player focused perspective on fandom…wherever Lebron is playing will be the team that has the followers. I think that is the way football is going (already gone) as well, and its IMO very shallow and helps to usher the all the money and eyeballs to a small handful of teams.

[Klopptimist]

Yep, no difference if it’s M&S, Arsenal or Next.

[maxpain17]

@Klopptimist

I’m not sure anybody’s defending their handling of this. If handling is the right word, utter mismanagement and a culpable lack of communication would be more apt. Fucking up is bad enough but they’re epic at actually doing it that annoys so much.

Sorry mate, but I won’t put this to a lack of comms. Did someone just forgot to email or send out a message to Klopp and players or did they fail to join the zoom meeting.

And, this can’t even be labelled as a mismanaged thing…this has been planned for months. They knew what they were upto.

What I really meant about defending them…was more in general.They were always in it for .

They will have eggs on their faces with all the negativity coming towards the club and when club valuations will further plummet.

[Klopptimist]

More peas dear?

[mattyhurst]

Yeah I hadn’t considered the coastal aspect of it.

[Hope.in.your.heart]

This adresses my earlier questions today about the hypothetical revenues. There have at least to be serious doubts about the levels which have been mentioned. And in the short term, it’s the clubs themselves who will have to invest into this new league. This could go seriously tits up for them imo.

[mattyhurst]

I assume they expect the PL pie and then some did they just add the three leagues TV rights deals and then x10 due to the “showcase” of matches.

If they have miscalculated this it could leave all the clubs in a mess it’s probably why PSG stayed away, they don’t need the money and will probably benefit from “loyalty”.

I do wonder why Chelsea and Man City didn’t consider it more.

[Iftikhar]

@Hope.in.your.heart You have to understand the potential audience for this extravaganza, some thing Andrea Agnelli mentioned as the Fans of Future. A global audience who are more interested in entertainment than competition and to make matters worse, they currently hold the purse-strings.

[Colossal_centre_back]

@Iftikhar

@Hope.in.your.heart You have to understand the potential audience for this extravaganza, some thing Andrea Agnelli mentioned as the Fans of Future. A global audience who are more interested in entertainment than competition and to make matters worse, they currently hold the purse-strings.

Disagree. Doubt they hold the purse-strings and seriously doubt many would want to watch a “European classic” every other week let alone pay for it, the basis this entire premise has been upon. It’s a huge assumption and I hope their logic actually fail in real scheme of things.

[Iftikhar]

@Colossal_centre_back

@Iftikhar

@Hope.in.your.heart You have to understand the potential audience for this extravaganza, some thing Andrea Agnelli mentioned as the Fans of Future. A global audience who are more interested in entertainment than competition and to make matters worse, they currently hold the purse-strings.

Disagree. Doubt they hold the purse-strings and seriously doubt many would want to watch a “European classic” every other week let alone pay for it, the basis this entire premise has been upon. It’s a huge assumption and I hope their logic actually fail in real scheme of things.

Millions. That how T20 ruined Cricket.

[Mascot]

@Iftikhar

@Hope.in.your.heart You have to understand the potential audience for this extravaganza, some thing Andrea Agnelli mentioned as the Fans of Future. A global audience who are more interested in entertainment than competition and to make matters worse, they currently hold the purse-strings.

The FIFA generation are more used to watching highlights or illegal streams. Good luck lads.

[mattyhurst]

Guess that’s why they want shorter games

[wyld.at.hrt]

@Iftikhar

Millions. That how T20 ruined Cricket.

Interesting thought. I personally think the innovations in cricket and the willingness to adapt saved the sport. The shorter versions of the game made the better players in the world better on the 5 day stage which remained the pinnacle. Test Match classics over the last 20 years have been on the rise. That’s not to say there weren’t classics before but a heck of alot of 5 day games played out over the full 5 days to draws with a run rates barely getting over 2. I remember South Africa winning a Test Match series of five (!) against England in mid 90’s 1-0.

[Iftikhar]

@wyld.at.hrt

@Iftikhar

Millions. That how T20 ruined Cricket.

Interesting thought. I personally think the innovations in cricket and the willingness to adapt saved the sport. The shorter versions of the game made the better players in the world better on the 5 day stage which remained the pinnacle. Test Match classics over the last 20 years have been on the rise. That’s not to say there weren’t classics before but a heck of alot of 5 day games played out over the full 5 days to draws with a run rates barely getting over 2. I remember South Africa winning a Test Match series of five (!) against England in mid 90’s 1-0.

It didn’t actually saved cricket, did it? It was an evolution, so the one that wasn’t practical died out.

[mattyhurst]

I think T20 has more viral content, yeah you have goals and maybe saves but there is no guarantee you’ll not have dud game or five, why are they going do say the keeper can’t move? No defenders?

IPL has an audience but the others less so, not sure why they don’t just go alone and franchise it after all they probably won’t use Anfield and they don’t really care about the current fans.

Liverpool Red Sox…

[Iftikhar]

IPL and BPL (Bangladesh) have huge audience and money. There are smaller ones too. Cricket is played by a handful number of countries so it’s not a global craze. Do you remember how popular the Sarjah Series used to be?

[wyld.at.hrt]

@Iftikhar

It didn’t actually saved cricket, did it?

The popularity of the sport was definitely on the wane, if not perhaps on the subcontinent. There was a fascinating show I remember in the late 90’s documenting the decline in the West Indies in particular.