The Random Football Debate Thread

Evertonian , manure and then a bitter again

@Bekloppt

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Not sure I understand the point of the question. I don’t think it adds anything to the argument about whether it is actually homophonic to raise how recently FIFA started caring about it or why. We can determine that independent of the timeline of FIFA’s concern or its authenticity. But just because you were previously unaffected by something that doesn’t affect you doesn’t mean it wasn’t a real issue prior to you knowing about it.

I lived in Mexico in 2010 and was aware of the discussion happening in Mexico even then (a gay friend of mine who explained why he’d stopped going to Veracruz games)

That’s funny because I always thought there was a comma after suck so never thought of homophobic connotations (despite it being perfectly equal choice activity for all genders and tastes).

But the point is it doesn’t matter it finally made it onto FIFA’s radar. There is no good argument that is not homophobic despite the popularity of the ones presented, and ultimately you are either against homophobic slurs being socially acceptable or you are not.

Not really. Just because there is ambiguity over one insult (over issues of fucking punctuation) doesn’t mean we cannot know the meaning of another insult when that same ambiguity doesn’t exist.

I accept people will claim this isnt homophobic, but these are just the same people who didn’t want to give up using the word gay as an insult or give up using the F word.

We live in such a satanised world now there’ll be an argument for nearly everything being offensive.

Don’t get me wrong, if something is racist or homophobic it has no place in society, let alone football.

“You suck asshole” for me is saying “hey asshole - you suck” rather than suggesting that the goal keeper does indeed like sucking on a persons asshole.

Even if it was meant that way I’m not sure it is necessarily homophobic, women have assholes too after all.

Offensive comments are not nice in general - does that mean that all offensive chants should be banned? That’s probably the way it’s going when in the future football chats will probably be encouraged to be about your club, rather than basing your chants on the opposition.

I am sure ‘sheep shagging bastards’ hasn’t been picked on yet. Then again when Celtic fans start singing it when 3-1 down and the reply is ‘we’re only …’ the chorus is magnificent. Is that Ironic?

The other half was watching Loose Women yesterday and they were actually debating whether or not the word “grandma” is offensive.

People will take umbrage at anything these days. :man_shrugging:

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So can my kids still call my mom Granny or not? :crazy_face:

Fucking hell.

Mental world isn’t it

A programme titled “Loose Women” debating the offensiveness of the word “grandma” :rofl:

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Yes but they surely are refering to loose tongues, oh wait! :wave:

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Just looked at the thread title, off topic!!! :rofl:

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Fact of the matter is right, a lot of what we said and how we acted 20-50 years ago is not acceptable today.

Imagine the everyday things we do and say now that will basically be worthy of a jail sentence come 2050.

Hey lads, maybe a bit of consideration for the fact you’ve now turned the rejection of homophobia into a conversation about how people will get offended about anything these days.

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Get this… I read the other day, that by teaching your young children how to use knives and forks to eat their meals… it is being racist against all the children in the world, that have no alternative but to eat with their fingers…!!!
I mean… C’mon

It’s a random debate.

What was discussed was how a football chant that wasn’t homophobic at all has been classed as homophobic because somebody was offended by it.

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Those Evertonians do struggle with cutlery, and English

I mean Grandma is better than GILF when it comes to describing loose women?

You have completely missed the point.