Think we would need to target the top brass…
Viz: The Howard Webb Bullshit Thread
If a contentious decision is sooooo bad, he normally pokes his smirking ‘Slappable Face’ (Backpfeifengesicht - to our German posters), above the parapet to offer a defence (excuse), against decision fuck-ups
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That said an updated thread counter post at the beginning of this thread won’t be a bad idea.
game week : Decisions for : decisions against :end result
Something along that line. Maybe will do the spreadsheet and then update it as and when the time comes. Can share access to people to add.
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I’m looking forward to Dale Johnson’s assessment on this one.
I am positive he wont see anything controversial in it all, pointing to questions about control and distance to goal. Im not going to lie though…I did already have a look to see if me wrote anything about it last night 
I don’t like the whole shit being decided by the referees.
In the same way , can an obvious foul on the penalty area be denied because the foul happened in the corner of the penalty box and the referees decide that it wasn’t a foul because there was no way someone could shoot from that angle.
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A foul in the penalty box is always a penalty so the DOGSO doesn’t apply.
Of course, that doesn’t stop referees deciding that a clear foul isn’t a foul, but that’s a different matter.
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So why did Gravenberch get sent when that foul was further away from goal than the handball?
And to be honest, I’m more concerned at VAR mentioning nothing about DOGSO at the time and only pulling that out of their arses after the fans when they realised they’d fucked up.
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Because distance from goal is just one of the 4 considerations.
Yeah, precisely this. In the hypothetical situation where he’s brought down he has already by definition controlled the ball and is running in on goal making the defender have to bring him down. The defender though prevented Hugo even being able to control the ball and start in on goal by knocking it away from him. It leaves more questions to answer about what he’d need to do to get a shot off and that’s why they’ll argue it wasnt DOGSO
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As usual the laws are a mess and that’s what causes the issues.
Ekitike is a long way from goal but I don’t think it’s so much the distance but the action of the defender that changes the decision. If he’s dived in a caught Ekitike instead of handling it then the perception is he’s taken himself out of the game by trying to make a tackle so had he not committed the foul he’s not getting back. But, because the handball prevents Ekitike from gaining control of the ball and the defender is still close enough to chase back had Ekitike controlled it then the perception of it being a DOGSO is skewed.
What it’s essentially telling defenders is if you’re in trouble and making a last ditch action, deflect it with your hand rather than commit a foul that takes you out the game. Madly, despite both offences resulting in the same outcome one is seen as less of an offence.
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Everyone including Gary Neville and shearer were flabbergasted when the guy was not sent off and I was not surprised in the least that both Taylor and the suspect Oliver came up with that guff.
It was so blatant that when they often screwed us over in the past it was covered up in a more believable way. We were lucky in the end that it did not affect the result.
I just saw the Dubravka incident and it was notable that after the ref blew the whistle one of the spurs players ran up to him to try to get the ball so they could take the corner and he threw it away. No booking. So yeah, it seems we have completely discarded that rule now.
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Add it to the ever growing list of ‘things that should have gone Liverpool’s way that Anthony Taylor missed until VAR stepped in’.
Except this time there was another corrupt cunt as VAR so it made no odds.
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Why did the Defender deliberately swat at the ball?
For me he panicked and in his mind, if he hadn’t had done so, Hugo would be through on goal.
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I genuinely think they looked at the wrong handball.
I think sometime after the incident, they realised their fuck up and put out the not a DOGSO bollocks. At the time of the stoppage, all the Sky pundits were saying that the VAR feed was saying it came of his leg.
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i think ill have to watch it again, i swear there was no contact on the second one…and the first one wasnt a handball either
to me the correct decision was made.
happy to watch again and review…but i absolutely remember thinking he didnt even touch the ball on that ‘reach’…and he was lucky he didnt because t really looked bad…
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He absolutely touched it, an instinctive reaction perhaps, but it was definitely handball.
At the 0.37 mark.
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You need some jamjars bottoms to wear xxx
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Alternatively, @redbj has the perfect CV for a VAR official. Job is yours!
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It’s Howard, knew it!
…no foul…good process lads…
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