The Referees or The Twelfth Man

Reminder the VAR who gave that penalty decided as ref that this was just a coming together and Mac entered Doku’s space…the challenge the PGMOL backed 100% and the PL later used as an example of the definition of a high challenge

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Liverpool are reffed differently.
Arne Slot booked for leaving technical area a few weeks ago.
Arteta is at it every match. Zero sanction.
Salah gets lumps kicked out him without punishment for the offenders.

Yesterday is a case in point. The same ref as gave City a goal in a similar situation. People can try and rationalise this, explain it, ascribe to all clubs. But its now surely plain to see.

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Yep…Haaland kick the corner flag after the own goal…he didn’t score…why did he not receive a yellow…can PGMOL answer this..if it was a LFC player he would show a yellow…but these men in black have their own itinerary and it favours certain teams and players…they are not bothered if people are beginning to check their decisions…they don’t give a shite.

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this x 100

ive been struggling to summerise my feelings on the matter but this is it.

its got to the point that an obviously flawed decision (Virgil vs Brentford ‘penalty’) feels like you cant say anything becuase someone will ad hoc quote the reasoning from the laws that ’ kinda maybe i think apply in this situation and if you cant see that then you dont know footy’…‘plus, it happens to every team’

when anyone who really ‘knows footy’ can see its not a fucking penalty

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Thanks pal!

I would definitely be clear that we will not be participating in any game of football that involves Michael Oliver.

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I’m sure I’ve just read Olivers been banned from officiating us…

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He’s not allowed to ref NUFC or Sunderland.

No way in the world would they say Ref A cannot officiate Team X because of a controversy. It would blow the whole shitshow to pieces.

The second they acknowledge there may have been bias, it’s over.

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Sorry …the headline drew me in…I thought it was a decision made by PGMOL.

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Due to his performances and his extracurricular activities, citiy’s two biggest multi year rivals now have genuine reason to question his impartiality in anything involving the top of the table. The big challenge to the PGMOL to do anything about that is the whole point of having a “highly rated” referee is to take charge of the big high profile games, but this is pushing them into a position where he’d barely be able to be involved in any of the games he’d otherwise be needed for.

He just needs to be unceremoniously retired and sent out to work in the UAE full-time

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It wasnt so long ago that we were called LiVARpool…

The fact that PGMOL see little issue with with a referee getting employed by the owners of a club in the PL shows what an unserious organisation they are.

Well, obviously they understand that it isn’t right, because they quietly put a stop to it. But they continue to wheel Oliver out in these games and he continues to be at the scene of the crime in so many decisions that favour Man City it’s unreal. They might be unconcerned with corruption. But they are unconcerned with the perception of corruption as well, and that to me shows the nature of the men who rule this shambles.

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I stopped watching at half time and spent time with my family instead. I watch football to enjoy the spectacle and challenge - win or lose - not to come away knowing I’ve been cheated out of that enjoyment by apparent endlessly unaccountable corruption. Can’t bring myself to prioritise my time in order to come away feeling like that. Tired of it.

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I stopped watching after VVD’s goal was ruled out. It’s pretty much pointless these days.

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I considered switching off after the penalty award, as it was pretty obvious what was going to happen. The fact that many fans had predicted that before kick off should tell you something.

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There was a penalty shout the Brentford/Newcastle game for Brentford which, was much more a penalty than the one award again us. The constant inconsistency is the thing that drives me bonkers.

Is the solution to have one video ref for the whole week fixture list?

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The solution is to not have corrupt refs.

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Remove most of the current refs. Have a proper vetting and training process that involves consistency and honesty. Establish a wage structure commensurate with the job, one that cuts out need for overseas sorties like Oliver.
Have a committee of real football people set the standards and maintain them. By real football people, I mean talking to Kenny Dalglish, Southgate, Lampard, Souness, Ferguson (random names, there are others)…anyone who has a vested interest in football. Bring ex players, supporters, engage overseas refs…design a charter that sets the highest standards and stick to it. Use VAR correctly, not the way it is at the moment.

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Yeah i saw that and the reason given was minimal contact and it was when burns stood on the players foot, the diving player got booked, marma’s knee made the slightest of touches and they get a penalty…fucking joke how each game has different rules

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I don’t watch other leagues from Europe often enough to compare, but I can’t believe that the standard of referee’s can be lower in the other major league than the prem. It’s the inconsistency that is mind boggling to me. One week something is given and the next week, the same thing isn’t. It happens time and time again. Maybe there needs to be a major re-think regarding ‘top level’ officials in the UK? Does anyone know if it’s the same shit standards everywhere else?

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