The Referees or The Twelfth Man

North Korea like? :sweat_smile:

China :squinting_face_with_tongue:

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And he was a regular at their matches, so it wasn’t just the usual “supported my pub team since I was a nipper” excuse.

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That only holds up until you watch the goal with open eyes, then you notice that Donnaruma has his head turned to looking to his right whilst Robbo is off to the left. If anyone is blocking his sight it is Doku, so they are raising walls around a ref making a fuck up to protect one of their own.

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I don’t blame the assistant and I don’t blame Kavanagh. It was reasonable to think that since Robertson was ahead of everyone else, he was impeding the goalkeeper.

But that corrupt cunt named Michael Oliver had every camera at his disposal showing him that that wasn’t the case and he still went ahead and disallowed it. He overruled clear evidence once again to favour his paymaster.

At what point and after how many crucial, City-favouring decisions will something be done about him?

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Not sure ex pros are the answer looking at Punditry.

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If the linesman is unsure he shouldn’t raise his flag.

I think you can excuse Kav on this mind.

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6ft 5, Donnarumma couldnt see the ball because 5ft.10 Robbo was ducking down in front of him!

Incidentally Doku is 5ft 8!

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Sky putting out articles saying that even after Webb’s comments, it still questionable…

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This is where the defenders of this decision are being so dishonest. The linesman rattled off a laundry list of reasons Robbo was offside, and people are using those other things to suggest the fact he was not actually in the keeper’s line of sight doesnt matter - the lino still thought there were other reasons he was impacting the keeper therefore it is still offside . But you cannot accept that interpretation once you see that the lino didn’t actually have a good view of where Robbo was in relation to the goalie. Everything the lino said about how impactful his presence was and his movement has to be reevaluated in light of realizing the incident did not happen the way he thought it did. Like I said, this is a textbook use case for when VAR is supposed to intervene…it is not making an independent judgement to disagree with the lino but saying that the lino’s interpretation is by default not defensible seeing as the video evidence shows he did not see the situation correctly.

I dont know whether this is dishonesty and a reflex to circle the wagons (from people like Dale Johnson who has now moved to the BBC) or stupidity - the inability to do very basic logic puzzles. But I suspect its a combination of both when you consider the collective group of people defending this.

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Yeah especially as ex pros have a significant presence on the IFAB board that write the laws that people have become so increasingly dissatisfied with.

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Ex pro refs might go as far as calling them “little boys”, and in the process, come across as bigger cunts than they already are.

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Think of the advent of the premier league. Man United had a huge part in it.

There’s your answer

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It can only be one of these two. It’s crazy that with VAR technology they cant get the decision right, or maybe they did :thinking:

With VAR every now and then we are simply expected to believe something that our own eyes can see is simply not true.

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I bet the refs hate it. It exposes them.

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Have you ever been speaking to someone you thought you knew pretty well and realized there is something they shockingly misunderstand that you had no idea about? Or even thought something you didn’t think a functioning adult could think? You’re in a conversation and all of a sudden find yourself realizing that someone has confused Nelson Mandela for Marvin Gaye?

That was how I felt after hearing Webb’s explanation of the Mac-Doku incident two years ago. What exactly do these people think a foul is?

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Speaking of which, who was the ref in that WC final? De Jong didn’t even get a card for this

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Dermot Gallagher? Wasn’t he a bit sympathetic to us?

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