For fucks sake Farrell!!!
England aren’t going anywhere in the knockout stages. Too sloppy in handling, not quick enough in decision making. And now kicking game is a shambles as well
Is Farrell their first choice though?
From what I saw of Ford he should be.
Yet they’re likely to get a game but limited Fiji in the quarters and so even as bad as they have been they could find themselves having limped into a semi final and from there who knows. They certainly werent a better side than NZ 4 years ago
Dallalio rightly ripping into them post-game
Pougatch: “What are England going to be looking to work on next week”
Wilkinson: “uhh…”
Dallalio: “(smirking) A LOT…a lot”
How was a penalty not given for that awful tackle on the Samoan?
Why didn’t the ‘VAR’ step in?
It’s been a great WC so far ambience and team spirit but refereeing has been a complete bewilderment to me.
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McCoist and Nesbitt look like they’ve been enjoying themselves!
Farrell is the England rugby equivalent of Maguire. Coaches seem to have a blind spot with him.
I saw him wind up two passes this evening that felt like it took half and hour before sending them miles off target.
I simply think Ford can’t play with him, he drags everyone around him down.
I do hope we get to see him again this tournament.
Ireland proving to be just too good. They get away with all sorts at the breakdown but you can’t argue with their accuracy in the opposition 22 though.
It’s been a conversation that has lasted for 10 years and he just stays around without ever actually proving his doubters wrong.
It’s very reminiscent of the early Pro days where it increasingly came to believed that you couldnt compete with the SH sides with a an outside half who eliminated your back 5 the way Rob Andrew did and yet no one could find a way to drop him.
Thanks for the clarification.
And they still haven’t managed to shut Andrew up either
BBC - A sluggish England outlasted a bruising, brilliant Samoa performance to head to the Rugby World Cup quarter-finals with a full house of Pool D wins
Hahaha, I thought England lost judging from some of the comments on here.
Sluggish England, bruising brilliant Samoa. Just not bruising or brilliant enough.
Granted England are no where near where they need to be.
My prediction. Ireland will get taken apart by The All Blacks.
Are the Jocks really the 5th best team in the world?
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How offensive.
I’m off to find someone to report you to
Nope. As in many sports, the world rankings are a joke.
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You didn’t see what I saw.
I agree that against Argentina Ford was good, however the team he had around him was disciplined and kept the pressure off him. As soon as England become headless there’s just too much pressure on Ford and he becomes a liability.
Farrell when England become headless becomes even more headless than the rest and it looks right. 
Until England learn to be disciplined and ‘rub the ref up the right way’ they will not be able to play a Fly half with skill.
All that is ignoring how poor the England scrum halves are.
That doesn’t make any sense.
If you play Ford they don’t play well
If they play Farrell they don’t play well
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When was the last time you saw England playing ‘well’ considering they are the biggest (in number) nation in Rugby Union?
As I pointed out I’ve sort of never really watched it. I was more of a league person but I’ve given it a proper go this time and enjoyed it but im slightly confused when you say they won’t play their flair player because they are shit so they play the shit guy so he is shit like the rest of them.
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They can not play Ford as they can not control the game enough for him to be of any use. They have too many discipline problems and don’t secure decent quick ball. Ford crumbles under pressure and makes more errors than Farrell compounding the lack of game control. Ford is or at least wasn’t good defensively as he doesn’t slow down attacking players.
Farrell on the otherhand revels under pressure becomeing madder and madder yet making tackles all over the place (though I don’t think he has the pace for that anymore). With ball in hand under that pressure he kicks hence controls the game much better than Ford under pressure.
As I said England were very good against Argentina however the scenario that led to that should be concerning. Both teams came out to knock ten tonnes of shit out of each other, 2 yellow cards very quickly one turned to red. It’s the red card that changed Englands attitude. They actually showed they can control a game. They dominated the breakdown and set Ford up to control territory, which with a dominant, disciplined England he was capable of doing. Yet there wasn’t any flair in that match it was total game control and Argentina let themselves down continuing with an illdisciplined, hecktic smash em up approach. Even so it showed that England can play in a disciplined fashion and succeed.
The problem is that the England mentality does/can not create the platform for Ford to ‘excell’ so they fall back to Farrell because Farrell looks better in that madness.
Btw I watched the Samoan game and Curry was back getting penalised anytime he got near the ball. Before England debate Fly halves they need to sort their pack out, it’s like they play to their own rules. Under such circumstances you will never be able to rub the ref up the right way and a competent opposition will always manage to put you under pressure so a player like Ford looks out of his depth. Samoa showed the level a team needs to be at to unsettle England!