mike dean. please leave. he is a scouser, right?
Britain could say well actually you know Iran and that protection weâve been affording you, fancy relying on Trump for that⌠Thought not.
Also find the odd tone change in Burnhamâs response, someone had word there itâs obvious.
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There was one interesting piece of the judgement that basically said that even city contest the panelâs interpretation of the illegality of how the payments were hidden, the alternative explanation City are offering (that arent credible, but ignore thatâŚ) arent actually any less against the rules. It seemed to be a judgement written with a view of getting ahead of likely avenues of appeal
Yep, itâs increasingly common to frame judgments in this way. No judge wants to have one of their decisions overturned.
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Glory hunters will always find a new club to glory hunt.
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There are always a small collection of clubs who somehow find Cityâs side, ones who have convinced themselves that if City were allowed to cheat then they would take their rightful side next to them over the red cartel clubs. Forest, Villa, Newcastle, and Everton typically. That has impacted the ability to get better rules in place to address these issues.
However, what the clubs want is not technically relevant to the punishment. The independent panel who heard the case and gave the judgement will also be determining the punishment. The only two avenues the clubs have, as the voting members of the league are 1) put pressure on the panel to go in a certain direction, or 2) they can separately vote to expel city from the prem regardless of what the judgement is from the panel
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Imagine a war started because of Premier League football
âŚAND ITâS LIVE!
for eaxmple , a large portion of scum fans, still say the are scum fans, but they donât buy merchandise or bother to watch games on tv etc, they donât have that interest in football .. they are cash cows that follow their peers to be popular, the league and its clubs try so hard to keep these kind of people, the league doesnât care so much about people like us and trying to retain us.. because we are always there
Aye, this current position they are sending up as a trial balloon is something that is contradicted by them in a series of prior official positions, including the UEFA hearing
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I believe Buryâs old stadium is still free
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Iâve always been under the impression Cityâs owners and the Abu Dhabi rulers are one and the same although theyâve always claimed they are not state owned.
Surely they were breaking the rules either way?
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But theyâre not though , are they. Not in the way that Liverpool , Arsenal and Utd are legacy clubs. Theyâve only been a âbig clubâ for ten years or so and the only legacy they have is a legacy of cheating , so to speak of their abscence damaging the PL is nonsensical. And all those who hitched upto the bandwagon when they won their first title are not ârealâ fans as most of would understand the term and would be just as likely to jump ship to whoever else is the dominant force de jour. I just donât see how this would be a consideration when a decision is made on sanctions. Admittedly the political angle is an entirely different kettle of fish.
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The amusing aspect of the Etihad fume is that the PL havenât accused them of bad practice or even collusion, as far as I can tell. Itâs Cityâs own case that Etihad didnât pay the entirety of the sponsorship fee.
If thatâs damaging to Etihad then they should direct any litigation towards City.
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Wasnât one of the reasons that Singapore Airlines, Emirates and the Etihad so successful is that they are being propped up by their respective governments ?
Itâs a weird angle for City and Eithad to take now.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cqn7470513n0o
They have lodged their appeal. BBC has an article about it. Iâve copied a paragraph below:
What will City argue?
City will claim as part of their appeal that key sponsorship deals were funded by the Abu Dhabi government, rather than the clubâs owners.
Owners Abu Dhabi United Group (ADUG) - a private investment company belonging to United Arab Emirates vice-president and deputy prime minister Sheikh Mansour - are said to have topped up the value of commercial deals as part of a âdisguised funding schemeâ to the scale of ÂŁ830.69m.
This, it was argued, enabled the club to appear to comply with Premier League and Uefa financial rules.
Premier League rules allow state-owned bodies to sponsor clubs.
Iâm obviously not a sports lawyer but this just doesnât sit right with me
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Iâm following LFC since quite some time, but have recently been on the brink of giving up on this league, because Iâve felt since years that things arenât right. In my eyes, the charges Cheaty have been pulled up with are only the tip of the iceberg, relative to the entirety of their work. I honestly believe that the PL is in danger of becoming a fake league, a bit like these catch tournaments, where nobody truly believes anymore that it is a genuine competition, and everyone knows that the fights are made up.
I canât speak for others, but if Cheaty get off too lightly, my interest in this league will further fade away. Them getting the just reward for their deeds would on the contrary have me more interested. Itâs not funny to see the same club winning eight times out of ten, and knowing that they are so strong only because they are cheating all along the way. Nope, something has to change fundamentally, and removing Cheaty from the equation would be a credible start for that.
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Theyâre not the same as Liverpool, Arsenal or Man United but theyâre almost the new breed of successful club. Bit like PSG in that itâs all shiny and glamorous facade laid on top of relatively recent global relevance. Theyâre football clubs for the tiktok generation where online clout counts for more than history.
Itâs in no way nonsensical to suggest their long term absence would have a short term commercial impact. And you know why itâs not? Because there are already reports of execs at clubs who donât believe theyâd be a sufficient number of PL clubs willing to vote to expell them because of the commercial impact it would have.
Weâre outraged because weâve been denied titles. So are Man United. Weâre worried about what weâve lost out on. Most other clubs will be worrying about what they may lose out on if City are expelled.
We can say their fans arenât real fans but theyâre real customers to TV companies and sponsors. Theyâre the ones funneling the money in the game. Well them and Abu DhabiâŚ
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Yeah there is no good outcome here. Any direction it goes from here is bad. That puts even more emphasis on focusing on what is right without consideration for the downstream ramifications. If you think of the alternative path that takes into account concerns about what happens with the recent big dog getting kicked out, the loss of credibility in the sporting fairness of it will be something that is lost for ever.
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They can all fall into the same bracket as content creators and influencers.
Iâd post my view on what they should be collectively called, but I wont as thereâs a very low bar for suspensions recently.