Does it really matter? Such a trivial thing to be bothered about.
I’m more concerned about the fact it has some of the most beige dialogue I can remember in any tv show.
It looks good but there’s nothing interesting about the characters or the way they interact with each other. Does it pick up at all?
Poor @Klopptimist. All he wants is a well made fantasy drama with no gays in it.
Can anyone recommend something that will transport him to other worlds through a riveting narrative and top notch production quality, while at the same time not make him think about bumming.
What a spectacular straw man.
What does it add to the story beyond blatant virtue signalling?
I’m not having a go at you. I understand your pain. When you’re watching a programme about angels and demons set across multiple universes, with talking polar bears, magical knives and ghosts, it really stretches disbelief when you find out two characters are bumming each other. I totally get it.
Is it in the book? No. Why add it? Virtue signalling and you won’t see it for what it is because you don’t want to. I’m amazed Galadriel isn’t now a lesbian.
I’m fed up of modern day politics and agendas being rammed into every possible orifice. Every pun intended. I don’t want the producer and director and writer’s obsessions with their ideas of modern sensibilities infecting every single book I love.
Regardless, the style remains the same. It is quite slow but does go well. Until the third book which goes batshit crazy.
Because TV and Film are their own art forms and these productions an expression of those involved in making them, not just the original source material.
I too started it watching it recently after the reviews it got here. After catching up on what the details of the controversy of the film version and seeing many of the defenses (it’s not an attack on Christianity just dogmatic institutions) I’ve been quite taken aback by just how unambiguously antigod it is. There is a more mature version of the this story told in a cult classic book called the Devil’s Apocrypha and as the story was unfolding it starting feeling just like a kid’s adventure plonked on top of that story. Then I realized Pullman wrote these several years before before De Vito wrote his.
So why not make their own material rather than adjusting existing stories? If they think it will sell, launch your own series with your stories and agendas. But they won’t because they know few give a shit about modern lecturing, they just want good stories. Dr Who Star Trek Marvel Starwars LOTR the list goes on and on and on. Almost every Marvel hero has now been replaced with a strong brave female character who’s better than them. The 60Kg girl beating up Kingpin was a particular treat.
It’s a kiss between two men. Who cares? Why does it matter? Exactly that point, it doesn’t matter so it’s only there to scream diversity. Have a new story with gay leads or a trans antagonist or a one legged heroine just don’t replace our existing characters with ones purely inserted for honk honk attention.
Black dwarf 
I was in a Catholic school one day when the priest came in to remove all the Pullman books from the library because in his words “They’re wrong”
If no-one wanted to see them then these franchises would not be adopting the storylines they are.
This really isn’t true, and even to the extent that it is, the source material for them already exists in the comics. They aren’t replacing female characters in mens stories, they already have their own, or are creating new content.
Just finished Rings of Power (tried waiting for my wife to watch it but she only ever wants to watch cooking or house buying shows 
)
Certainly a few slow moments but thought it ended really well. Didn’t really enjoy battle scenes - they were a bit The Hobbit for me - but the Sauron reveal was great.
So Loki? Thor? Hawkeye? Dr Strange? Hulk? All had their arses handed to them by their stronger and better female replacements.
You’ve seen Disney’s stock pricing and their viewing figures? Tail wagging the dog here.
It’s a story about the battle against an overly oppressive church whose dogma is made up from lies. If you dont understand why someone would have thought the existence of a same sex relationship would fit with that story then I don’t really know what to say. So why add it if its not in the book? I dont know, maybe in the 25 years since pullman wrote it it’s become more relevant to the grounds on which these battles are fought in our actual lives so was not something Pullman was thinking about the 90s? Maybe because it’s a different medium and the way you can present a message in each is different?
Given the slant Pullman takes on religion and his outright hostility to it, if he’d have thought it was important to have a gay couple in in the 90s, he sure as hell would have done. Not a good argument that one. FAR more meaningful in the 90s than now. Nobody gives a shit now and rightly so. Unless it’s thrust in for its own sake.
Yes, let’s do that.
Except that’s not how the entertainment industry works. It is incredibly difficult to get original material to screen, and studios today are very reluctant to put money into things that are not an existing IP with a ready made audience and an, in theory, guaranteed return on investment. This is why today’s market is oversaturated with Marvel, Star Wars etc, and studios are locked in a spiral of endlessly rebooting and reworking the same IPs over and over again.
Saying that they (I don’t know who you mean by this) should make their own shows seems a bit blase in this environment.
If you think that representing gay relationships on screen alongside hetrosexusl ones is a good thing, then it is going to have to happen in existing IPs.
At the end of the day, this was a very minor detail where it was implied that two male angels were in love, a necessary state of affairs given how the loss of one affected the other, and and important experience in the narrative of Will and Lyra finding their own love for each other and saving the world(s) as a result. If they were a male and female angels, you would have had any problem with it, and this my friend, is why your opinion on this is homophobic.
But he is a producer on the series and has specifically endorsed and approved of the changes made from the books in its adaptation to TV. So your argument is a bit flimsy as well.
No it’s fucking not and I resent that accusation. Some of your best friends are gay so how can I be homophobic?
I’ve explained at length the problem. It’s not that they’re gay, it’s that they were not in the source and only put in to be seen to be gay to tick boxes. That’s NOT homophobia. And you know it. Ad hominem as ever.