The TV Thread redux

I’m enjoying Rings of Power as well. It’s a bit confusing at times trying to remember who is which and so on, as I don’t know the whole background and I am usually drinking some wine while it’s on. I’m enjoying it more so than House of Dragons. Speaking of which…

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Will the king f***ing die already! I keep waiting for the him to die and civil war to break out…pretty much from 5 minutes into the first episode. If we have to go all season before he dies and just see people moving chess pieces around in the background waiting for him to die…someone chop his head off already. Get this show kick started. It’s pretty good, but it could be much better. My wife is watching with me and decided she wanted to actually watch GOT from the beginning (she didn’t really watch it regularly) …so we re-watched the first episode of the original, and 2 guys get their heads removed, there are white zombies, an imp in a whore house, and relatable likeable characters right from the start (the Stark family). It’s so much more entertaining. We’ve had 5 episodes of intro and background politics while we all just sit around and wait for the king to die. None of the characters are terribly likeable.
C’mon already. I’m getting impatient. I hope this entire season isn’t setting up a civil war that happens in season 2. The scene is set.

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finished Ep3 of Stranger Things last night. I hope this gets better, because it’s getting a bit unwatchable at this point.

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Man the writers of HoD and RoP are so woke it seems they had some Tantrum

Can anyone tell me who’s seen Echoes, is it Lennie that’s gone missing and Gina pretending to be her to find what happened or is it Gina that’s really missing and Lennie pretending to be her?

2 episodes in and I genuinely can’t tell.

Have you seen the directors cut though?

Hahaha… Yep

I read the works of Tolkien 5 years before LOTR came out on the big screen.

I wouldn’t count my self as a Tolkien fanatic but I’m aware of his stories by and large.

All that done… Atleast it seems better than the Hobbit film series

Stick with it. Season 3 is a bit shit but 1,2 and 4 are excellent.

Amazon don’t “yet” hold the rights to The Silmarillion.

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Presume you mean episode 3 of season 4.

Personally I liked seasons 1&3 best.

Not sure if I’ll bother with 5, although I may have to in order to have conversations with young people.

So House of the Dragon will have a 10 year time jump for the next episode and the actresses who played Alicent and Rhaenyra will be replaced by older actresses. Interesting.

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https://twitter.com/ButWithRaptors/status/1572196677984854016?s=20&t=M_5wV8kO4niX5gRJyRNb0g

Watched Dragons ep5 again this-morning with the missus. Absolutely peak GOT writing and production. Just missed Daemon putting his feet up on the top table when he arrived. Other than that, almost perfect. We knew something would happen at a wedding but what did was brilliant.

Next episode on 10 years? Would be strange to miss the critical death and ascension.

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100% correct, it’s the newest season and it’s losing my interest quickly.

The Russia stuff drags imo and there’s too much of the annoying characters and not enough of the entertaining ones.
Still, it’s aimed at under 20s, which I presume you aren’t either.
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Summary

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Saw the promo preview on YouTube and it looks as if the King will still be alive 10 years later

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Dragons is demonstrating why the version of the Tolkein show so many book fans wanted to see is not adaptable to TV. Stories need momentum and that’s broken by big time jumps. It robs too many characters/actors of the opportunity to become meaningful, and makes the events we’re being shown feel inconsequential. Twice now there have been big events that allude to big consequences being wrought, and the response was to just jump years ahead in the very next episode and bypass all of that.

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It’s not adaptable to film either, which is why Peter Jackson took enormous liberties with the Lord of the Rings books. I mean, it’s a long time since I read the books but I think there is supposed to be decades between Gandalf leaving the Shire, doing his research, and then coming back to send Frodo at Sam off with the ring. Then there is the complete cutting of the whole Tom Bombadill bit, giving stuff to Arwen that she never did in the books etc.

The trouble with fans, and this is true of Star Wars, Doctor Who, Marvel etc is that when the fanbases get this invested, they are never ever going to be happy. It’s always going to be a disappointment, because it can never live up to what they have in their heads.

My thing is Doctor Who. I’m a complete nerd about that show, and honestly the way a lot of fans go on about it, it makes you think ‘Why are you bothering? You clearly hate this’.

The reality is that if fans do get what they want, then you can guarantee the general audience departs. I remember that hardcore fans got ingrained into the production of Doctor Who in the eighties and rendered it pretty much unwatchable. The fact of the matter is that while the scale of the production of Rings is another league to Doctor Who, neither Amazon or the BBC are investing the money into those shows to satisfy a tiny number of hardcore devotees, who in all likelihood will watch regardless.

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Not my usual type but quite enjoyed Echoes.

Never want twins.

Dahmer (Netflix) is pretty damn good. Has an 18 rating, but so far (halfway through currently) it walks the right line between being grim enough to not gloss over what he did, but not being gratuitously gory either.

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