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Call it pride but I wouldnât take back any player who left my club on a free if there was a fee involved in his return transfer.
I said it a few times before (though itâs a variation on Carraâs comments on Trent): if he really wants to pay respect to the club that made him and if he wants to know how desperately Real Madrid want him, he should sign a contract with a reasonable release clause (which, in my opinion, would be around 80 million pounds for a player of his stature), maybe one that applies only to Real Madrid. If they decide to pay it this summer, he has my blessing to leave.
But for him to leave on a free, spend some time there and then return to Liverpool for a fee⌠No way. That would be against the way this club is being run. It would be almost Pogba-like from Liverpool.
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$350k a week for a RB, no matter how good he is, is too much and would see other players knocking on the door for a pay increase
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I donât agree fully with Carra on what he said.
They were both good for each other, Liverpool for Trent and Trent for Liverpool. We cannot say that Liverpool made (as he was a car made in factory) Trent or that Trent wouldâve become the same exact Trent, letâs say, anywhere else below the top level (I think he wouldâve still made a pretty good career).
Many players will come through our system. Very, very few will be of Trentâs calibre and accomplish such a story. Liverpool was and will continue being successful with a ton of new players.
There is value also in the success for a long time we had together, not only in terms of pure profit; how we paid and gained from each player. If we go only by that criteria, then football doesnât really make sense, does it. Itâs a game of many imperfections.
Sometimes transfers on a free happen due to different factors and there is not only one âguiltyâ party. Trentâs guilty that heâs not sacrificing more or the clubâs guilty that they wonât give him what he wanted at a certain time. No, at least for me.
There is a bit of Trentâs long term ambition and also the result of Liverpool losing their organization for a while on and off the pitch. Plus, the oppurtunity (that spot being open at Real). Timing.
Should there be a new rule or something for such cases, that might be something to discuss in another thread.
I can accept that this is just what happens in football from time to time, even to the biggest clubs. Weâre lucky itâs Liverpool, among the top of footballâs food chain, so it rarely happens. Weâre mostly on the other, better side of these deals.
9 years together is a very nice story, it doesnât have to be 15 or whatever all the time with local players. A lot of them will get nowhere near to 9. I will remember him positively and as a club legend. So far no reasons for me to have ill feelings.
Heâs still here so I wonât look too far ahead when talking about a potential return. But purely theoretically speaking, if one day it makes sense (both from a football and financial perspective) for both sides, I wouldnât mind it.
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. Liverpool didnât âmakeâ him take that corner quickly
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Get him to sign a new contract, then we could send him on loan with them paying his wages and a loan fee to usđ
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Never mind about sources, maybe I can make some shit up and go âsources sayâ.
Frankly jog off.
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If Trent is going to be paid ÂŁ348k pw at Real Madrid, arguably we could stretch ourselves and just about match it (there would be ramifications, as other deals in the squad would be increased as new benchmarks are established, and the club could ultimately find itself in trouble if not careful).
Still, letâs imagine we could match the weekly salary. Three things come to mind:
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Do we want to? Hughes is a hard nosed negotiator by reputation, and he likely has a value in mind for what certain players would be given, within his overall budget. Maybe we donât want to give Trent that much?
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Even if we did want to, Real Madrid will be giving him a large signing bonus due to no transfer fee. Now we are getting to a place where we probably could not, or should not match it, even if we wanted to.
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Trentâs wishes come into it. In fact, thatâs the largest part of all this, and it seems he wants to go to Real Madrid - huge club, global fan base, lots of money, sunshine, guaranteed trophies, lifestyle, try a new thing that most donât get offered, connect with his friend Bellingham etc.
If he goes, Iâm sad but mostly about not getting a fee. The rest of it I fully understand. If he has the opportunity to go and he fancies it, good luck to him. Life goes on.
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Something like that is never completely planned, but Barcaâs tendency to turn off at corners was supposedly something Krawietz identified. That was why they included even the ball boys into the plans to make sure balls would be available to restart quickly.
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All we can really do is offer him the best contract possible within our existing structure and let him know how valued he is here.
If he decides that it isnât enough then thatâs on him.
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Canât see that one happening, doesnât really seem to fit the profile of either of our right sided roles.
Yeah, Frimpong is such a lazy link.
Iâm sure this would appeal to Darwin, if he still has enough confidence to play at the top level.
Atletico Madrid are on the hunt for a new striker in the summer and one of their transfer targets is Liverpoolâs Uruguay striker Darwin Nunez, 25. (Caught Offside), external
Liverpool will only sell Nunez in the summer if they bring in a replacement, with Brightonâs Brazil striker Joao Pedro, 23, one name on their radar. (Teamtalk)
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Last few snippets of Brightonâs games I have watched, I thought Rutter looked better than Pedro
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Predicted this a long time ago and somehow feel it would work out for him.
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Agreed. Not sure theyâd stump up 60-70m for him thoughâŚ
(If that is even a realistic fee)
45-50m and Nunez can go happily. Yes , it will be a loss to Liverpool. But player amortization etc so come in. Plus leaves us with enough money to pay some money for Isak if not the whole thing.
Isak is good donât get me wrong, but I am increasingly concerned about his fitness record, particularly looking at the kind of fee it would take to get him (likely ÂŁ100m+).
For that kind of money you want a guy who will be available for the majority of games and can be reliably counted on when you need him.
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I think @Limiescouse put some figures in a discussion recently which indicated that his fitness record is fine. But I agree that the fee may make this deal harder for us given we wont be the only club probably interested in him.
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