The Unreliable LFC Transfer Rumours Discussion Thread (Part 3)

Yeah I feel as though people need to take a chill pill and look at the wider picture.

It’s just like the people who were dooming and glooming because we lost/drew a couple of games here and there. It’s not always going to be the worst case scenario, and I think our recruitment team have more than proven themselves over the last few years no?

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I don’t even have a horse in this race!

What I saw is that you were being really belligerent towards anyone who challenged you, and that’s what got me annoyed, because you had done zero research and had nothing factual to back up your arguments, yet you were demanding that others refute you with thoroughly sourced arguments.

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That’s your question?

Mine was going to be, what are you eating?

Genuinely, that kitten is actually called Lulu.

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The season is not even finished, and there’s the whole summer to come.

Imagine being us.

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I appreciate you sharing your perspective. Just to clarify, my approach is always to be friendly and polite with anyone who treats me the same way. However, when others resort to name-calling, derogatory remarks or general rudeness, they shouldn’t be surprised if my responses mirror that tone.

As I’ve mentioned already, it’s not accurate to say I did “zero research.” I did look into non-compete clauses using Google (yes, I know) and couldn’t find anything concrete about their use in football. I even came across some unsubstantiated rumours suggesting that Barcelona and Real Madrid may have invoked such clauses after the Figo saga, but since it was all hearsay, I chose not to include it in the discussion.

I’ve also acknowledged, in light of @rab’s Bosman-related citation, that my original suggestion is most likely not viable. I’ve accepted that and am quite happy to move on.

Lastly, I’m still unsure why there’s so much pushback when someone simply asks for a source to support a factual claim. It’s a reasonable part of any discussion, especially when the topic involves potentially complex or uncommon information.

We’re not a Sevilla.

Overall in the football food chain from top to bottom, we are among that company up there. More often than not, we are among those final destinations. And if for some players there is another little level, I can live with it. We’re all different and can only talk and imagine what we would do. Stay at Liverpool forever (must be damn good to even merit that opportunity) or wish something different at a certain point.

There are also no strict rules in football just how many clubs are ahead of us in terms of attracting players, that can also be very subjective and it can change from time to time.

Leagues, clubs, etc. Italy, England, Spain… some things remain the same and some things change a little bit with different times.

Real’s power has certainly gone up a little bit in these modern times especially since the Decima and them going on an incredible run in Europe.

It’s a team with stars in their or coming to their peak, not perfectly balanced but far from the sort of things they used to do in early to mid 00’s (especially after '02). Bernabeu renovated, for some players also the lifestyle… really not hard to understand why it’s attractive. It’s dead easy, objectivelly speaking (leaving the possible subjective tastes aside for a moment).

Our power has also gone up in recent times. It’s not only Real above us though, only players themselves can decide where they want to go next. I never had a problem with it, there can be different combinations of motivations that lead to these decisions. Sporting and private.

I can live quite comfortably with having a player like Trent for 8-9 years instead of always 15 or whatever. That is also beautiful and rare. It’s a shame and I’ll miss him, I’m certainly not indifferent. Whether he 100% wanted Real or 51%, it doesn’t really matter. I trust him that it wasn’t an easy decision, but it’s best when it’s honest and we move on respectfully.

Whether it’s Real, Barca, Bayern, the biggest Italian clubs, some other English clubs, PSG, whatever… for some, the power might be lower at the moment, but they still represent the biggest opportunities.

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Congratulations, you somehow managed to ask the most stupid question in this thread.

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“Since you knew the lascivious nature of the rites of sportive [transfer speculation]* as well as the dissoluteness of the games, and the license of the populace, why, stern Cato, did you enter the theatre? Did you come in only that you might go out again?” - Martial, 1.pr.2

** a slight alteration to the translation may have been made

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Yeah for those whose negative reaction is centered around him creating a situation where we get no transfer fee, this is a critical counter consideration. Trent signed his last deal with us when he was 22. He was an important player even then, having been first choice in the team for 3 full seasons by then. But this next contract had he signed it would have represented a big bump in money. Over the course of the 2 years that is a lot of money he has left on the table, money we have saved, by having the situation play out like this. It is unlikely to be enough to make up in full for what his market value if in contract would have been, but it is not nothing. Conservatively, it would have probably been 15m quid.

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Another one whose career was ruined by moving to Utd.

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So we’ve got Vanderson supposedly available for 25m, Wesley for 30m and Frimpong with a 30m release clause and we’ve been linked to all by numerous reports this week? Yeah, safe to say we’re 100% after a RB.

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We’ll be in for a right back and a left back for the early business. Seal them in quick and get them to the training ground quickly too.

Those are probably the bare essentials. Everything else depends on who we manage to move out.

No idea what that means

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Bradley. We still need another RB though

It’s a clickbait title of the most laughable sort and that’s why I don’t read Liverpool Echo anymore. Slot specifically said this in his presser:

“Conor has such an intense playing style,” said Slot. “They all run a lot but Conor is in his own league when it comes to running a lot, comparable maybe with Achraf Hakimi at PSG. He is everywhere during the game. But Hakimi is 26. He is much more used to doing this every single week.

“Conor needs time and a good programme to keep him fit. He is not the only one who has not been a regular starter who has had some injuries this season, look at Diogo Jota and Harvey Elliott. The ones who are not regular starters, it is harder to keep them fit than the ones who are. If Conor is going to be the regular starter next season that could maybe help him. I think he had 20 games [in a row] last season when Trent was injured. Let’s hope that has a positive impact on his fitness as well.”

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Any news on whether we would keeping Calvin Ramsay. For all intents , he was rated on par with Bradley only for injuries to derail him.

Even if legally this nonsense could work this is the ultimate reason it doesnt work. A players got to have a pretty shit agent and contracts lawyer if they end up signing something as dadt as that.

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You can’t bar players from signing for a certain club provided a suitable transfer bid has been made. Or leaving the club on a free to sign for that club after their contract is over.

The only thing which will stop real Madrid from doing this is that if they became a complete clusterfuck over the next 10 years. Which is nigh on impossible given that the club is too big to fail. Probably the only club right now in world football which is in that level.

They have a very good south american scouting network. A great academy and can simply entice players to leave in their prime on a free to join their club.

Maybe the most feasible thing that can be done for the likes of Real is that if the TV rights monies are more equitably distributed among all the clubs. That would not have immediate benefits but atleast the lesser teams in that league can probably hold on to the players more and probably even compete as well.