The Unreliable LFC Transfer Rumours Discussion Thread (Part 3)

The reason why you are getting all this aggression is because you’re advancing an utterly moronic suggestion without having done any research at all, and demanding that people spend their time and energy to refute it, including people who would probably otherwise be well-compensated for their time and expertise in the legal world.

And you are attacking anyone who dares to argue against you.

Really not looking to open this up again, as others have cited sources which show that such an anti compete clause would be difficult to enforce in the sporting arena.

But, just for clarification, my angle of attack was for example a 7 year contract, with the first 5 years covering the registration period with Club A and the final 2 covering an agreement not to sign for Club B. So the contract doesn’t end at the end of the registration period.

We need to replace Bradley. Alexander-Arnold has already been replaced by Bradley.

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I don’t think it’s an utterly moronic idea. Some other posters who, while disagreeing with my idea, have at least acknowledged that non-compete contracts exist in other walks of life.

I haven’t set out to attack anybody, but I think I’m within my rights to respond to somebody in the same manner and tone they speak to me… you condescending prick (see?).

Reported for being off-topic.

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It’s a bit late, did they get him to sign a five-year contract with a 12-year exclusivity clause?

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Have you done any research of your own at all into contract law and non-compete clauses?

Had you even heard about non-compete clauses before you even started on this wild fantasy?

Did you bother to do any independent research instead of relying on other people to spoon-feed you answers?

Some, not a great deal in all honesty. In future, I’ll put in a good month of in depth study before making a novel suggestion on a fan forum.

Yes, as I mentioned I’ve been aware of non-compete contracts/agreements for some time. I mentioned earlier knowing somebody from the field of tech who was only too happy to boast about having such an agreement.

Yes, I used Google too.

Anything else?

I suggest next time instead of spending time to argue that other people are not putting out sources, to either come with your sources, or walk in the sunset.

You can’t expect other people to do what you haven’t, it took me 5 minutes to find the link I shared, not with Google, but with an AI search.

This is even when I agree that asking the question you asked initially was not as nonsensical as some others people thought.

But if people are not reacting the way you want, it’s better to recalibrate your expectations rather than be agressive in the conversation because you believe you’re right.

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If a player is under contract we would be paying them a wage. So you would be effectively setting the club up to be shelling out a chunk of wages not to play for a rival.

I’m pretty sure that registrations are linked to contracts, so I don’t think we could have a player ‘under contract’ and not hold their registration.

The biggest barrier to this is that no player would sign it. It simply isn’t in their interests to do so.

I do understand where this is coming from. We’ve lost a brilliant player on a free contract, and we suspect that Madrid have been in the players ear for a while. As frustrating as this is, I don’t think there is much we can do to stop it (and it isn’t like we’ve never benefitted from free transfers).

I think Konate is going this way too. He isn’t signing a new deal, has probably been tapped up by Real, and Wenger is absolutely right. I was saying this a couple of years ago. Transfer fees are becoming so expensive that the top players are not going to risk allowing themselves to get locked at a club because a price has been slapped on them that suitors won’t match.

So….about Konate. We have to decide what to do about him.

Normally a club would offer him a new contract, and if he doesn’t sign, sell him. If he refuses to go, slap him in the reserves and let him rot.

Liverpool don’t do stuff like that, because they understand team spirit and team bonding. Konate has friends in the squad who would not like to see Ibou ostracised.

So what do we do? Can we do anything?

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I made a suggestion, based on the fact that such non compete clauses/contracts/agreements are a “thing” in other walks of life. I suggested that such a thing, in the hands of the right group of lawyers, may be something which could be included in player contracts.

The responses I got were pretty much everybody saying it wouldn’t be enforceable… and name calling from some of the other geniuses.

I simply requested that for those saying something which does appear to be enforceable in some walks of life, wouldn’t be enforceable in the sporting arena, provide reasoning or a source as to why.

You say it took you five minutes to find the source, great, and again thanks for sharing. For the people stating that these are unlikely to be enforceable in the sporting realm, is the onus not on them to give a reason why or provide a source? Or should I just have said, “oh, you say it’s unenforceable, I believe you”.

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I agree, the biggest barrier probably would be players not willing to sign it. My interest was in, if they did so willingly, would it be possible to include a clause such as this.

It seems Bosman closes this out, as while the club wouldn’t be refusing to release the player, they would be demanding payment from a player should they join a specific team.

I’m sure if I had Mac City’s lawyers they’d find a way though. :rofl:

Sign Huijsen?

I’m serious about this though. I might be the only one perhaps, but I don’t mind being a “feeder club” as long as we keep winning the trophies in a financially sustainable manner. If we continue being the club who signs great players on the contract before their “big” contracts, then we get to benefit from their good performance without shelling out too much for the players.

I do wonder if people are focusing too much on the supposedly forgone transfer fees (you can’t get a transfer fee if no clubs are willing to buy them to begin with), and not on the total opportunity cost. Perhaps we might have lost out on a transfer fee for Alexander-Arnold, but had we renewed his contract a couple of years ago, we might well have had to pay quite a lot more in wages as well. And given the way that Real Madrid have gone about it, there’s also no guarantee that they would have paid such a fee anyway.

The reality for us is that as a top, top club, the number of destinations after us for good players is really limited. Where can you go from here? It’s usually just chasing the money, or a new opportunity, but the new opportunity tends to be at a club that is also competitive. Real Madrid doesn’t tend to realise good transfer fees from their sales either, usually from clubs stupid enough to pay them like Chelsea (Morata) or United (di Maria, Casemiro). Juventus got burned with the Ronaldo transfer. And those aren’t players they wanted to keep either.

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I have edited/added two paragraphs you might have missed, so here they are.

This is even when I agree that asking the question you asked initially was not as nonsensical as some others people thought.

But if people are not reacting the way you want, it’s better to recalibrate your expectations rather than be agressive in the conversation because you believe you’re right.

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How many different animal guises do you have???

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That might be true, however i think fans are going to obsess and believe this is true in every case a player hasnt just signed a new contract…

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I don’t think these were included when I started my reply.

It’s not that I believed I was right. I was putting a suggestion out there, based on my knowledge that non compete clauses were a “thing”.

What I got was derisory comments and people stating in a factual tone that this couldn’t be done. All I wanted from anybody making such claims was a reason why.

I conceded that it was most likely impossible as soon as @rab posted a scrap from the Bosman ruling, which up to then, I had misinterpreted.

As far as I was concerned, that was case closed. However, I came back to a lot of alerts and some nasty comments, so this is where we are.

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Christ, what did you eat?

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