The Unreliable LFC Transfer Rumours Discussion Thread (Part 3)

No. I genuinely dont get the grief Diaz gets here. If he leaves people will appreciate him when he’s gone.

Rodrygo is still young and arguably has a higher ceiling and a move away from Real could be the spark he needs to achieve that potential, but he is currently not the player Diaz is and it would be a big gamble to assume he could be.

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One or two LFC related posts on the BBC gossip page today, although nothing new except for the Mail covering all the bases.

Liverpool are expected to rival Newcastle United for Eintracht Frankfurt’s French striker Hugo Ekitike, 23, after being told Sweden striker Alexander Isak, 25, is not for sale in this window. (Sky Sports), external

The Magpies feel the leaking of Liverpool’s £120m interest into the public domain is designed to unsettle Isak. (Telegraph - subscription required), external

As well as Ekitike, Liverpool have also made enquiries about four other attackers in case they are unable to secure a deal for Isak - Aston Villa’s Ollie Watkins, 29, Napoli’s Victor Osimhen, 26, Yoane Wissa of Brentford, 28, and Real Madrid’s Rodrygo, 24. (Mail+ - subscription required), external

Napoli have informed Liverpool a deal for Uruguay striker Darwin Nunez, 26, can be considered off. (Fabrizio Romano), external

Colombia winger Luis Diaz, 28, has made it clear he wants to leave the Reds after the club rejected a £58.6m bid from Bayern Munich. (Athletic - subscription required)

There’s also this about Konate.

Liverpool and France centre-back Ibrahima Konate, 26, has rejected a lucrative approach from the Saudi Pro League. (Mirror), external

The Reds have put a £43.5m price tag on Konate for any clubs interested this summer. (AS - in Spanish)

Jota’s passing leaves the contract frustrated. LFC can elect to pay whatever they want and they’ve chosen to pay what would have been due had it run its full term. No FIFA rule to prevent this.

As far as his book value goes, it would not have been zero as he still had 2 years left, but it would have been diluted by the extension.

Say you sign a 5 year contract and the transfer fee was 50 million. After 3 years your book value is now 20 million (50/5 × 2yrs remaining).

If you then extend by a further 2 years, that book value is then amortised from that point as 20/4 (his contract then having 4 further years to run).

So 5 years after his initial signing his book value would then be 10 million (rather than the zero it would have been without an extension).

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Yeah what what does Fabrizo Romano, Internal say?

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Doubt AS would know anything internally about us. Like expecting the Sun to know that.

A plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel ?

Here we go Rodrygo soon then.

We terminated the contract. That leaves us looking to pay the full 2 years for Jota. I’m pretty sure it’s going to impact us on the FFP. Clubs aren’t liable to pay out the remainder of the contract when it comes to the death of a player but we’ve chosen to go ahead and pay the contract out in full by terminating the contract.

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Very interesting developments. Looks like we are going to end up with Isak, or Ekitike, after jumping into the fray after Newcastle made their move on Ekitike.

I would be delighted with either.

Then let’s see what happens with Diaz and his replacement if he goes; then also at centre back.

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I don’t know how if that is how it works in football but technically, once the contract of Jota is terminated, the wages are off the books. However, what we choose to pay to Jota’s family can be itemized differently in the accounting books? And especially in FFP, it allows for certain spending that is supposedly good for the long term health of the game, that is called virtuous spending, so I wonder whether that amount can be placed inside that item and thus not accounting for in FFP. Genuine question.

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Yeah if the contract is terminated and then FSG pay the family in a wage then it’s not football finance is it. It’s like paying a none football employee.

Same goes for the educational trust fund that they’ve said they are setting up for the kids. I don’t think the PL will be particularly bothered around that kind of accounting as the club are seeing no beneficial outcomes from it.

For me, it’s always been the unfavourable comparison with Mane. He’s a really good player but never hit Mane’s heights (or the heights of his pre-injury performances). With Kerkez and possibly Szoboszlai covering the left flank, the possible new winger probably wouldn’t have to run himself into the ground as hard as Diaz - instead, he would have to be more of a goalscorer and creator, to put it rather simplistically.

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I think a lot of that would be offset by the insurance arrangements Liverpool would have had against the player.

And if the PL were to get involved in that the optics would be appalling.

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Book valuation and transfer fee have nothing to do with the question though. The question was in regards to the remainder of his contract.

And according to FIFA regulations, the contract is terminated as if it had expired naturally.

Yes, as I said, the contract is frustrated. That’s the correct legal term for a contract coming to an end due to it no longer being possible to perform; in this case due to the death of one of the parties.

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No.

Ah, ok, I didn’t know about that phrase.

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Yeah in legal terms frustration is pretty serious. So if you marry a lawyer and they say they are ‘frustrated’ with you watch the fuck out.and check they don’t have underworld connections.

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He’s a striker apparently

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Well at least now we know who all this Isak and Ekitike stuff has been a smokescreen for …

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