The Unreliable LFC Transfer Rumours Discussion Thread (Part 3)

How can Gakpo be Diaz’s replacement when he’s already here and played 2,700 minutes last season.

I’m expecting him to be our primary LW option for sure but to think a 16 year old is going to provide that depth behind him in a season where we’ll be looking to play 50+ games is pretty mental.

As for Elliott, he had the chance to back up Salah last season and barely got a kick. He’s even less chance of finding minutes in midfield this year too so I can’t see him hanging around. Not as if Chiesa or Nunez had any impact on his minutes anyway.

You could have a lot of games where Szobo is still our #10 (our main presser and I’m interested to see how the likes of Isak and Ekitike press) and Wirtz plays in that inside left half-space. If Ngumoha is on paper behind Gakpo, it doesn’t mean he’ll be on the pitch every time Gakpo isn’t.

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I meant the article, is it from the athletic itself?

You suggested getting a “top drawer” replacement for Díaz. My point was that we don’t need to as his ‘replacement’ is already here.

To be honest we aren’t really sure how we will look once the changes take place. I trust Hughes isn’t just randomly buying and hope Slot can make it look like a team.

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But this is the point I keep making about double counting players. If Wirtz is playing LF and Szobo at 10 then the rest of midfield is picking 2 from 3.

I like the flexibility and I don’t necessarily think you need 2 elite players for every position but we do need to be conscious of the depth of the squad. Last season we were crying out for more players Slot trusted to start. What we surely need to avoid is a better but smaller squad and still risk that fatigue we saw at times.

I’d also really hate to be spending £100m+ on a new number 10 and then deciding he’s our cover in a role he’s not really played before.

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Okay, then we need a replacement for Gakpo if Gakpo is now replacing Diaz.

I said the same you said this morning in another thread, that flexibility has it’s limits. But with someone like Wirtz, I don’t think it’s problematic if he’s used in two positions. It won’t be more than that. His zone of operating will more or less be the same. Diaz was used in two positions last season, even if we perfectly had on paper 6 forwards, two per position. There was hierarchy, merit, certain players ahead of others. Neither Gakpo nor Wirtz have to be branded each other’s cover. Certain things I bet even Slot doesn’t know yet, who will merit to start the season, who will be in form, what combinations will be best to form our new first XI.

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Yes

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I think there’s a bit of a difference though, We went into last season with two great options on the left, two for the middle and then Salah on the right with Chiesa a bit of a swiss army knife (that ended up getting left in a draw).

This season we’re looking at replacing the two central options, having Salah on the right and then Gakpo on the left with Chiesa leaving also. This in an AFCON season where we know Salah will be missing too,

It just feels light to be reducing the number of out and out options for those front three places in a season we know we’ll have a period without Salah. It’d essentially be four primary options and then some flexi options. It doesn’t feel enough to me and the casual attitude some have of “Rio will step up” is very risky given his age and experience. Yes he looks very good but say any of them goes down early in the season with a significant injury, all of a sudden we’re pretty thin.

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I’m fine if we go with 5 seniors instead of last season’s 6.

I’m of the opinion that of course, 6 is ideal. 5 is very doable. But 4 is certainly not enough.

I was very happy with our forward depth last season, regardless of the fact that I was never a fan of Nunez and I was suspicious how good of a transfer Chiesa was (it was presented as a deal we “had to” take, while sometimes you have to think twice and there are good reasons why something looks cheap - in fact, with his wages until his age of 31 - it wasn’t that cheap).

But such 6 forwards is not easy to keep happy, even if you go deep into competitions.

5 seniors also depend first and foremost on their quality, so we first have to see how the likes of Wirtz, Ekitike and Isak do. Plus, if we bring another one. I believe Chiesa and Nunez are gone almost surely, while a little question mark remains over Elliott.

The coaching staff know much better than we do how ready Ngumoha is. I wouldn’t put the “you’re Gakpo’s direct backup and competitor, be ready son” type of pressure, but if he’s showing progress and merit, sometimes, well… you can’t ignore it. Even if it means playing 10-15 games, in whatever capacity in terms of minutes. It wouldn’t be the first time in football that a very young player shows he’s already at a level meriting of a place in the first team squad. And no, that doesn’t mean it’s only Lamine Yamal who’s done it.

I just don’t want that in our 22 players, we “need” to have Nyoni, Ngumoha, Danns and whoever else. That would be too much inexperience in a squad/team that want to defend the PL title, attack the CL, attack all games and all competitions.

So with the remaining question marks, we’ll see if Elliott stays or goes, whether we even add someone like Fofana and what are our 22 players on paper by the end of the window.

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@Sweeting I assume you’ve got him in your database somewhere, is he any good?

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Sweeting hasn’t been here for months

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Just not around or has something happened?

If he’s just not been on the mention of a youth prospect might be what coaxes him back

Exactly where I am, provided that fifth option is isn’t Chiesa, Wirtz, Frimpong, Ngumoha or anyone else currently on our books or earmarked for another role primarily.

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That’s a bit odd as I am sure Arsenal had beaten us to him a week back.

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LFC are the big boys in world football now! I am not surprised!

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wholeheartedly agree rab.

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Unrealistic perhaps to sign 3 more players, but I think this really rounds out our squad and the only potential longer term weaknesses are at DM and CB.

Isak replaces Nunez
Ekitike replaces Jota
Rodrygo replaces Diaz
Rio/Frimpong replace Chiesa
Salah
Gakpo

Wirtz replaces Elliot
Szoboszlai
MacAllister
Jones
Gravenberch
Endo
Bajcetic

van Dijk
Konate
Gomez
Guehi replaces Quansah
Bradley
Frimpong
Kerkez
Robertson

Mamardashvili
Alisson
Pecsi

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I’m not as well it’s just I am sure someone more credible suggested we had lost out.