If we aren’t achieving what we could achieve because we are being cautious and not committing all the resources we are able to commit you’re OK with that? The worst possible thing that could have effected football has and we are still set to come out of it fine. There’s caution then there’s overly cautious. Shanks had this fight back in the day. If he hadn’t won we wouldn’t be the club we are today.
I still don’t see that being the case. The negotiations are early on, the relationship between Hendo and the club a strong one and the club has shown it doesn’t back down. As much as I like Hendo, I don’t think he brings enough to the table to force the club to change it’s position.
See you’re missing the point.
We are competing solely because we have probably the best manager in the world to operate under the system FSG imposes.
Or with just a tiny bit more help he can dominate and we clean up.
As it stands we can tick away and due purely to the magic of Klopp still compete and possibly even win sometimes but he won’t be here forever. And he won’t achieve what he could have achieved when it’s over.
I don’t care about FSG, they’ve spent very little to end up with an asset worth so much. They’re getting “paid” long term. I want LFC to be as successful as it can be.
This is not a call to be frivolous or risky with our money and financial stability. Buy if people can’t recognise how incredibly far away from that we are I don’t know what to say. We’ve got a long long way to go before this club is under any serious concern with its financial activity.
Just for future reference: people are allowed to disagree with you without it coming as a result of not understanding your point.
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We are competing solely because we have probably the best manager in the world to operate under the system FSG imposes.
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I love Klopp as much as anyone here, but that is a bold statement founded on nothing but opinion. The sole reason we are competing is because of Klopp? Hell, we almost won a league title with Rodgers. When it comes down to it, let’s not understate nor overstate the importance of a manager. Klopp himself says this all the time. It is up to the boys come match time. Our success comes down to the execution piece of whether or not we win a football match. Players matter, personality matters, and character matters.
FSG has funded that piece of the puzzle. They have helped give Klopp the pieces he needs to be successful. Klopp has assembled the puzzle magnificently, but let’s not pretend our success is due down to 1 person. Our club is way too big for that.
The points you were making were not disagreeing with the points I was making they were misrepresenting what I was saying and then countering that.
What? I said that I disagreed and then laid out my own interpretation of the tweet you referenced. How is that misrepresenting anything you said?
Rodgers was actually better funded than Klopp has been. And a much better manager than he usually gets credit for. And even within Klopps time here things seem to be evolving under his tenure.
I actually think we might struggle to get a top manager after Klopp. Top managers like to know they’ll have flexibility in spending to be able to orchestrate their plans. Who is going to look at what Klopp has achieved, how little he’s spent and feel confident they can take that on? It’s going to be a poisoned chalice.
Depends on your definition of overly cautious. On the one hand, you keep telling people why we need to clear the decks and who we should get rid of because the squad is too big and we have too many foreign players. But then on the other hand you want them to spend a load of money on new players.
We haven’t come out of the worst thing that has affected football just yet so you can’t say we’re fine. Firstly, revenue will be down significantly. £45m odd in the last set of accounts. Most of the damage won’t be seen until the next set but it’s conservatively being estimated at £100m and at this point we don’t know that stadiums won’t shut again next week, let alone at some point in the next nine months.
So yeah, now is time to be cautious and yet we’ve still spent £34m in one lump sum to address the weakest area of the team. Not really sure what you’re moaning about here other than them not playing sugar daddy like Roman and the Shieks which we know they aren’t going to do.
On the contrary, much of the current value of the club is a direct result of their investing time and money into the club.
You said you disagreed with my point. Then argued about what the tweet meant but didn’t actually seem to understand the point I was making at all. If you’re arguing with the tweet/write up (which keep in mind is coming from journalists very close to the club so will be the rosiest portrayal possible) that’s fine. But at what point did you actually get my points and argue against them?
Sometimes I really believe this is longest troll game I have ever seen on the internet
Then other times I think you’ve lost it, but I’ll bite. Please tell me know how Rodgers was better funded than Klopp. I’d love to see the data on that.
They’ve ran us so much better than previously however they’ve put less into owning the club than Red Bird Capital have put in for a minority stake. Might be a little out on that as not looked it up to make sure. But won’t be by much if I am.
I don’t care about Van Gogh. All he did was buy the oils, brushes and canvases and now his paintings are worth millions.
Lorenzo Pellegrini from Roma is 25 and captains Roma. He will be a great addition if the 30m Euros fee had any truth in it.
Fukui is great. My wife is from Gifu so I enjoy visiting but not so much in the summer.
Please tell me know how Rodgers was better funded than Klopp. I’d love to see the data on that.
Rodgers had a net spend of around £44m per season. Klopp has had a net spend of around £23m per year. That’s an extremely crude way of looking at it.
Reached 34 celcius where I live, in the shade and 36 in Tokyo. Could probably fry an egg on the balcony. The killer is the humidity in this part of the world.
I don’t care about Van Gogh. All he did was buy the oils, brushes and canvases and now his paintings are worth millions.
FSG aren’t Van Gogh, they don’t create LFC, they’d be the equivalent of an agent/manager providing the painter with the equipment to create and then selling after his death and getting 100% of the financial success of his talent.
I don’t care about Van Gogh. All he did was buy the oils, brushes and canvases and now his paintings are worth millions.
Now watch youselff …
Respectfully, I haven’t been following your discussion over the last 2 days (in my timezone) with forensic attention to detail. Your general thrust seemed to be that FSG are too cautious to invest in the squad to the extent of their capacity, and that the line about waiting until 2022 to be further from the effects of the pandemic supports that assertion. I floated a different suggestion about the relevance of 2022, my anticipation of transfer activity in this window, and the present needs of the squad. That’s it.