The Walking Eagle thread

This is all feels like a semantic argument about language.

What I do know is that I helped my lad with his homework a couple of weeks ago, as they learn about the Second World War. The parallels with Hitlers rise to power were terrifying.

  • Riding to power on a wave of populist rhetoric, promising to restore the country to greatness while attacking and blaming a racial group.

  • Carrying that message to an impoverished, disillusioned working class, using mass rallies and inflammatory language.

  • demonising intellectuals, progressives, and liberals, using language like ‘traitors’, and ‘enemies of the people’.

  • attacks on the media and individual journalists as biased, unpatriotic and corrupt.

  • use of militia groups to intimidate the public, especially around elections.

  • incitement towards violence from his supporters.

The biggest difference I can see is that while Hitler’s aims were geopolitical and genocidal, Trump’s are entirely self serving.

I might be uncharitable, but I’m not prepared to give Trump a pass for the damage he’s wrought on the US and the world on the basis that he isn’t trying to exterminate the Jews or annexe other countries.

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I say he isn’t trying to exterminate the Jews, but he does support the horribly antisemetic QAnon conspiracy.

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Perhaps with Trump it’s another form of racism?

The fear i havevis that Trump doesn’t stop here

Lot of people here were Corbyn supporters

With the best will in the world, there is quite a difference between Labour antisemitism and QAnon.

Unless you are telling me the Labour Party believe there is a secret cabal of Jewish people controlling a new world order which involves the kidnapping of children to ritually sexually abuse them and drink their blood?

I have to admit, that isn’t something I’ve personally seen alleged during my membership.

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Most of that stuff was rife in the Republican party/FOX News etc for a long time, Trump just did it more blatantly and took it that one step further. Just saying, this didn’t come out of nowhere and probably won’t disappear with Trump either.

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Yep, and the people who voted against him because they “wish he would just stop tweeting” will then completely accept a more polished version of Trump do exactly the same things to government, but just with more restraint in their public comments. They will wield a politically motivated DOJ acting to keep a minority party in power, but it will be cool because at least the president isnt tweeting cofeffe.

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The roof! The roof! The roof is on fire!
We don’t need no water, let the motherfucker burn!
Burn, motherfucker, burn!!

https://youtu.be/uI6h7aeRkac

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I’m not sure what point you’re making. However, to clarify, most people do not have the time or inclination to do a deep dive into the news or current affairs. these people get directed by the very simplest of narratives. Among this group were people who criticised him for his tone and twitter conduct, but not for his policy of using irreversible family separation policy as a purposeful cruel deterrent in a fight against immgration. They did not turn because of his violation of the independence of the DoJ. They did not turn because of the illegal use of government resources and the office of the presidency to conduct a political campaign and impugn your opponent. These are things that are morally repugnant and incredibly damaging to our democracy, but it was tweeting cofeffe that turned these people off.

So my point is we are still at risk of a more polished version of trump wielding the forces that put him into power and then running the government in the same way and being able to get away with it. And that is because it was ultimately the superficial shit that turned many of his people away, not the incredibly damaging and rot inducing actions.

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https://youtu.be/HnYWmgSZdlM

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It stuns me that such a stupid hen manages to find an audience, not to speak about the orange troll.

In my country, she’d rapidly be taken to the cleaners if she dared to speak out publicly like that. But she wouldn’t.

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Crying Eric Trump Asks Father If They Poor Now

WASHINGTON—Following Donald Trump’s defeat in the 2020 presidential election, a crying Eric Trump reportedly asked his father Friday if they were poor now. “Daddy, I’m scared. Are we all out of money now that you’re not president no more?” asked Eric, 36, wiping away tears and snot from his face as he struggled to shatter his Minecraft piggy bank. “I have six paper money and a whole handful of these metal circles, hopefully that can help. Do me and Don Jr. have go get jobs now? I don’t want to be poor and smelly, but I don’t even know how to work. Being rich was the best ever and I don’t want it to stop.” At press time, a famished Eric Trump was sobbing while attempting to cut a leather shoe with a knife and fork.

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I don’t get it either. It is as if all critical thinking has gone out of the window with these people. She’s made a fortune from the sheep that follow her. But then again 70 million voted to re-elect a narcissistic, conceited, racist piece of shit who is a threat to the very democracy they cherish so much.

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A lot of people vote either Democrate or Republican because of what the party stands for whomever the candidate is.

70m dont vote republican no matter who is in the hot seat.

There is something very broken out there.

I bet you can find a huge amount of Republicans who say the same. :sunglasses:

The voting system is broken. The partisan system is broken. Maybe at the end of the day, the people who really suffered are just ordinary people who don’t really care who is the government as long they get a chance to put food on the table for their family. Maybe that is why such a big number of people don’t even bother to vote even if this year sees a record.

But nobody should have to struggle to feed their family.

If you are working, you should be paid enough to not have to rely on food banks and the like.

If you are not working, there should be enough social support so that you can live at a reasonable level.

Instead, companies pay the lowest wages they can get away with, relying on state (ie taxpayers’) money to subsidise their avarice; governments throw billions at their friends and supporters in tax breaks and bailouts (and NHS contracts in this country) instead of committing public funds to the needy.

The whole system is a con and people still vote for it due to the aforementioned dumbing down.

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