I call it like I see it.
The fans booing don’t speak for what the rest of the fanbase thinks.
I call it like I see it.
The fans booing don’t speak for what the rest of the fanbase thinks.
I’d say to lil Mickey that if he hadn’t left for Madrid and then hadn’t panicked and held his ground on returning (when Real wanting twice what they paid for him) and hadn’t gone to Man Utd then perhaps he’d have been held in higher regard. But even when he played for us many fans were luke warm on him as he seemed to be always talking much more about England than Liverpool.
So boo him after he leaves. Or is loyalty only a one-way street?
I don’t suppose loyalty is important when they’re wanking over the next transfer they can make, or over some imagined transfer fee we can receive for some player, even when it’s apparent that the club can afford to do without (see the rumoured simultaneous offers for Caicedo and Lavia).
People booing are just butt-hurt that someone they thought owed it to them to stay for life is leaving. We want to talk about loyalty, he’s served the club for 20 years, and he’s contributed so much to what we’ve won over the years (otherwise people would be positively gleeful about his leaving).
So yes, it’s about egos. If they gave a shit about loyalty and the notion of You’ll Never Walk Alone, they wouldn’t boo a single player wearing the Liverpool shirt. Simple as that.
Did he ever get booed before he went to United?
And how much of Trent leaving is the fact that he’s chosen to leave on a free. Which he’s well within his rights to do.
I don’t like him leaving. The thought of him leaving doesn’t sit right with me. But he’s been in the club for 20 years. We made him the player he was , and he helped propel.the club forward. End of.
And that is exactly what the fans in the stadium did yesterday. They called it as they saw it. What gives you the right to air your feelings and them not? Entitled prick, perhaps? Or is that just allowed for you to say?
Not in the middle of the fucking match. People can make their feelings plain to him elsewhere. Not when we are in the middle of a match where the players need the support. And Trent is still a player for Liverpool.
Don’t think so. Although he may have at Newcastle (as it was then known)
Don’t think I’ve seen our fans as divided in 35 years supporting Liverpool. I heard there were fights in the Kop yday, and it’s descending into personal abuse here.
I hope Slot doesn’t play Trent again this season. He’s yesterday’s news now and all the shitshow around him is threatening to take the shine off our celebrations
I remember a walk out against ticket prices somewhere down the line. At the time the general consensus on here was without fans football is nothing. Was in the game then, was it not, team needing their support. Was okay then, though (feeling in general, might I add)
Trent’s leaving isn’t as much a gut blow as what Macmanaman , Owen ,Torres , Suarez leaving was.
Three of the four are still adored at Liverpool with only Owen perhaps reviled. But then it’s still about Owen being the alround gobshite that he is.
Trent has been utterly professional. He’s won the lot (there was no sense of unfinished business) that there was with the other three.
Don’t mix up both the issues.
The same bunch would have cheered had Trent hit the free-kick in.
Nah, to heck with that shite. We’re not paying him hundreds of thousands for that.
Unless Bradley can sustainably play the full 90 we should be playing whoever it takes for us to win the games. If we’re 5-0 up when Bradley comes off then I’d agree that we should play Quansah or Gomez (if fit) but apart from that, the club comes first.
I would quite simply expect Trent to start the remaining matches.
That’s what Klopp would have done.
I actually disagreed with that one, because the walkout was about the top-priced tickets (which were already rather high) being increased, rather than an across the board increase.
The end result however was the latter, which was a massive own-goal from fans, I felt. It would have been much better for people who could afford it to buy the more expensive tickets while keeping the prices down for the rest.
You have no way of knowing that, and I suspect Jürgen’s approach wouldn’t be different from Arne’s. Bradley is the future, and the future takes priority, but Alexander-Arnold is still under contract with the club so he has to play when told to.
The league is won. These matches are early pre-season friendlies. You can argue that those that paid for tickets deserve to see the best team to win the game. But I’d imagine most want to go and celebrate the title without listening to boos and animosity. I certainly would if I was lucky enough to get a ticket
Well sure. But it’s still about ending the season on the high. Beating arsenal sets the seeds for the season to follow not giving them a sniff into the game.
Once again a massive disservice to your fellow fans. I posted this last night and I’ll copy it here:
It’s also that we’ve been shafted by these pricks for a fair few players over the years with the only one I can think of that we got a decent fee for being Alonso. Plus local boy, been with the Club since a boy, Scouser in the team and talented to boot. Again, it’s an intangible that cannot be quantified with a number, but let’s face it that type of player is rare in the extreme in the modern game. We can literally count only two in the past quarter of century as born and bred Scousers in the team to the end of their top line playing days (Gerrard going to the US doesn’t count in anyone’s mind, I don’t think). Trent could have been the next and he should have been the next and decided that he wasn’t up to it.
He’s a once in generation type player, not just in the way he plays but who he is and where he comes from. And again it’s not just that he’s left but the complete silence from him until it was done. The Club made him who he is, the fans idolised him for who he was. The decision to leave would in all honesty been accepted and he’d never have had to face this had he but been less aloof throughout it when it was blatantly clear he was off.
I guess it goes back to the argument of whether Arne is liable for however the fans react.
What’s next, not playing someone because the fans don’t like him, even though he’s integral to the game plan? That would have torpedoed Lucas’ career before it even got off the ground.
I suspect Arne and the team want to win every single game (just look at how they celebrated the goals yesterday, including Alexander-Arnold himself). I’m expecting the games to go as they did yesterday, with Bradley starting and Alexander-Arnold on the bench.