Is Sahin the worst manager in Dortmund history?
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It was disgusting the way they provoked leverkusen and won by submission and their manager seem to enjoy all the chicanery horrible football.
I hope Liverpool avoid them they have some cracking players but a rotten manager imo.
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Very interesting read (link below) about the new financial incentives of the Champions League this season.
Champions League prize money: All you need to know - DaveOCKOP
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For their last game, Barcelona face Atalanta who need to win to make sure they get a chance at top 8.
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So winning top spot just gives us an extra 226 600 over second place.
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It looks that way, and from what I can tell, even though we know the teams who finish first or second in the league phase will face a team who finishes in 15th, 16th, 17th or 18th, I think (but not certain) that there is some kind of draw after the final games to decide which of the possible two play off winners we get.
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Hey - that would pay a few days of Trentâs increased wages! It might be the difference between keeping him and losing him.
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I read elsewhere that because a draw is worth 500k instead of 1.8 million, then the remaining money is put to a general pot and redistributed to all teams based on their final league position. (Where the last team get X amount, the penultimate gets X2, the first one gets 36X, etc.)
So the difference will be a tiny bit more. No idea if itâs consequential and I donât really care to calculate.
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Yes, I think that is true, I believe they mentioned something about it in this article.
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There were two other penalties given in the game that were way softer than that one. I think they would review it if Raphinha didnât score but once he does they think âWe dont want to be the ones who change this resultâ.
The referee was all over the place.
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Easier to figure out with a snapshot.
So Liverpool get 15.7m + (1.8m * 8) + 1.7m + 9.3m(for qualification to round of 16) = 41.1m
I do think there should be a further money being given out for teams to finish in the top in the league stages.
Makes it slightly complicated. There are 32 draws so far , assuming weâll end up with 45 draws as the tournament goes on. Thatâs an additional 0.8m per draw that goes on to being redistributed to teams based on final league position. Another 36m or so the estimate goes. Could be more.
Not so simple math gives the additional payout to be around 2.4m for the first placed team.
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No matter what way you slice it, the additional revenue from this stage of the comp - when you add gate receipts, merchandise, TV money, ad revenue, prize money, etc. - is going to come in REALLY handy for us this summer as we load up for a decade of dominance after City get fucked out the League and Arsenal go down in flames.
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I agree, there doesnât seem to be much of an incentive or a reward for finishing top of this League Stage. Yes, we get slightly more money than the team that finishes 8th, it is debatable whether the draw is going to be any kinder to us for finishing top, so the incentive either needs to be a huge amount of money, or some other kind of reward⌠I am not sure exactly what that could be,
Maybe, it should be something very left field like the winners get automatic entry to the quarter finals ⌠or even better, they can nominate a qualified team of their choice to get relegated to the Europa League ⌠as long as that team name begins with either a âMâ or a âRâ !
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Yeah we might even be ending up facing a stronger team based on the luck of the draw. We might even end up facing a PSG/Madrid/City/Bayern depending on how the matches pan out.
I think the top 3 should be getting additional incentives of 10m , 7m and 5m. Or something along those lines.
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It was @Arminiusâ fault for helping to develop David.
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This is really phenomenal what weâve done in this new format, coming back to the CL after a year out of it. 7 wins against 7 different opponents, conceding 2 goals. Very impressive. Not taking it for granted. Really proud of it.
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Also very profitable. I found this online:
Play-off round: âŹ4,290,000 Base fee for league phase: âŹ18,620,000 League phase victory: âŹ2,100,000 League phase draw: âŹ700,000 League phase top 8: âŹ2,000,000 League phase ranked 9 through 16: âŹ1,000,000 Knockout round play-offs: âŹ1,000,000 Round of 16: âŹ11,000,000 Quarter-finals: âŹ12,500,000 Semi-finals: âŹ15,000,000 Runners-up: âŹ18,500,000 Champions: âŹ25,000,000
I make it that we have so far accumulated
âŹ18,620,000 + 7xâŹ2,100,000 + âŹ2,000,000 = âŹ32,320,000
There are a fair few top players wages in there. Just qualifying for the group stage is a yearâs worth of Salah,
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Which serves to underline just how ridiculous playersâ wages are, really.
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French authorities have determined Feyenoord are too much of a hooligan risk to allow fans to travel
How does this actually get enforced in a free movement region of Europe?
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