UK Politics Thread (Part 1)

Pretty sure Frank Spencer would be an improvement over what we have now. Plus his dress sense would endear him to France at least.

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I hear you. The English monarchy have an estimated wealth of £80bil. You sure you want to distance yourselves from that!? They will fight tooth and nail, and Port Talbot, lets just hope they dont reassert tribute.

Im secretly longing for the bringing down of all States; biggest problem facing the world to be honest.

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It’s not a presumption. Turn out at European elections is staggering low. Undoubtedly less than the number of people who voted to leave.

By the way, I do think we need to leave, cos that what people voted for, and I don’t really want riots.

But let’s not pretend that the path that Hard Brexit cunts are now telling us is the ā€˜Will of the People’ was ever seriously on the table four years ago. Even wankers like Farage were adamant that leaving the single market wasn’t an option.

This is the problem with having a referendum about a vague notion, and then leaving the bad faith arsehole to manipulate it after the fact.

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I’m not entirely sure what you are advocating in the event of a Rees-Mogg premiership…,

Not so much the monarchy more the way that Wales is ā€œmanagedā€ by Westminster.

Basically everything that Wales produces disappears into the Westminster coffers. We then get a budget in return.

There is also a large sense of feeling that we are ignored, or simply used by Westminster. A large part of that is in no doubt due to our historical past of mining, unions etc. combined with what has mostly been a Conservative government.

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Your last sentence sums it up

Not the same crowd at CAS is it?

I don’t really think that’s in dispute but at least it acknowledges benefits of leaving :wink:

Fingers crossed it includes Chuck Norris

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I think we’d all agree with Chuck.



Indeed, well put. Although this was better… :rofl:
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United States of Ireland :heart_eyes:
Republic of Wales :star_struck:

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Emigration or full tilt Guy Fawkes? As one’s quite complicated and has possible legal ramifications, anybody know a decent gunpowder supplier?

This is a joke should GCHQ be reading.

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For me, the most persuasive argument is that Europe’s major nations, which all had the habit to go to war against each other since centuries, have been able to stay at peace since 1945. 75 years of peace and political/cultural/economic collaboration. This is an incredibly long time when you compare it to any previous historical period. The idea of trying to work together instead of against each other played a major part in that.

Otherwise, the EU has a lot of flaws indeed (also a few qualities to be fair). But it’s better to have a common project containing flaws, rather than no common project at all.

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It’s a good point but it doesn’t need to be the EU to dissuade nations from going to war, on the contrary. Economic interdependence would probably be enough, no need for a political union as well. That is counterproductive to European harmony.

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I thought you had a supply?

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Both you and @Hope.in.your.heart make very good points but I’m tending to lean towards more political alignment and most certainly regulation is necessary in certain aspects. Climate change would be a prime example of this where nations need to be pushed towards a agreeing and reaching a common goal. Each doing their own thing simply does not work.

Furthermore, given the fact that nations are now heavily reliant on goods and services moving across borders, it makes sense to have alignment. For example, (and this actually happened) for lorries to move across Europe lorry sizes were standardised. Now there is in place a system whereby bridges and highway structures are designed to meet these ā€œstandard lorriesā€. This has allowed lorries to travel un hindered across Europe. The down side to this was that the UK had to instigate a massive programme of assessing the strength of all it’s highway structures and in many cases bringing them up to the new level. Previously UK bridges were not designed to accommodate the bigger lorries.

As an Engineer a certain level of standardisation is attractive to me.

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No mate, you have me mistaken for somebody else :wink: