UK Politics Thread (Part 1)

Very true but effective testing is also key. Identify the clusters and on those areas.

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I think we could.

Purely speculative at this point, but take Norfolk as as population. Back in late July their numbers of Covid was approximately 1 or 2 cases/day (depending on the day). From such a low level of establishment in that population the dominance of 1 variant could easily occur by chance. Today Norfolk is where this variant is most established representing 20% of cases.

This coincides with when the UK had similar numbers to Australia (hard to believe now) with daily numbers between 400-700. A week or so later the UK relaxed restrictions (in stages over august).

For me this is when the virus variant likely took hold (several months ago) rather than today while the cases are high.

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I was thinking relative to France where when the population is asked to confine the number of new cases is seen to be affected by a downward trend. I am pretty sure that the French tracking also the testing might not even be as effective as in the UK (tracing I think is probably better but if the other 2 aren’t I don’t see the point :rofl:). When you compare the French graphics to the UK’s it really is 2 different worlds and imo hasn’t anything to do with testing. For me that leaves attitudes. Just saying.

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Ah sorry I misunderstood.

Of course the UK has been shambolic but I was also referring to an article that @Arminius posted a good little while ago where they were looking at the approach by places like Japan (from memory) where they’ve been far more effective at tacking the virus.

Unsurprisingly to everyone bar Boris it came from actually understanding the science, in particular the cluster nature of the virus spread and literally hitting that hard.

That article has almost become reference material in my eyes now.

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This different strain that’s reportedly more infectious but also indigenous to the UK offers the government an opportunity to defend the UK’s numbers relative to elsewhere…

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Yes it’s a political announcement not a scientific one.

Boris steps down. Straight 3 way fight between the queen of the undead, Mogg and Gove.

FFS Boris, don’t leave.

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They’d have to change their narrative to try to explain the first wave numbers though

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Trump driving all travellers from Europe to the USA into the UK.

There you go, everything covered! That’s also particularly satisfying as it has an undertone of xenophobia.

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Just say it was EU fishermen pissing in UK waters. Two birds with one stone. :wink:

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Gove maybe but I cant see the Victorian Death Pencil and her highness not getting anywhere near the leadership.

One thing’s for certain in my eyes. There’s no way Boris leads the Tory party into the next General Election. Not after this year and what is about to unfold next. They will need a shiny white night to repair the damage.

Personally I’m pretty sure that was always the case, perhaps not in Boris’s mind but certainly others in the party, namely those in the ERG.

Rules out Dishy Rishi, then.

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Nichols Soames described Jacob Rees-Mogg with perfection.
And may I note that this is the first thread I have read today with ā€œChristmas settingsā€ ! It is growing on me now, hated it intensely for 10 min. Not so bad now. But it was a shock to log on. Then again, my raven looks better with a hat, although the size is a bit wrong for the poor bird.

@cynicaloldgit, your avatar sadly suffers a bit due to that enormous hat, lol !

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I see what you did there…

But I think he fits the model of what they will be looking for ultimately.

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If it gets/keeps them in power ?
Yes definitely.

Not every person of colour is the same inside and out.

Keshvari https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazyar_Keshvari, who used to be the Progressive Party’s spokesman for Immigration Policy, fronted the harshest immigration politics in Norwegian politics, and a zero refugee policy.
Before he was arrested anyway (for gross fraud with travel bills).

Such people are PERFECT for parties on the quite far to the right from centre, since such parties tends to have an image problem with certain segments of the population due to a segment of their voters often being quite racist indeed (at least if you use the broader cultural definition of racism, biological racism is thankfully much rarer these days, in my country anyway).

I suspect they might. His background certainly fits.

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Beat me to it :wink:

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This is totally ignorant behavior, what are they thinking btw? That nobody is watching English TV over here?

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