UK Politics Thread (Part 1)

It’s not true though, is it? Particularly if those governments are within the EU.

One thing I was annoyed about listening to BBC Radio 5 Live on the way into work this morning was that Dr Chris Smith and the male presenter came across as a bit upset that we’re paying the price (due to the travel restrictions imposed on us) because the UK is so good at picking up these variants. The implication was that it wasn’t “fair” to penalise the UK for being really good at detecting problems. I mean, wtf?

This is precisely what responsible governments should be doing. What the world should have done to China back in January/February.

The only governments that should be criticised are those who are not good at detecting local variant viruses and/or not transparent in their communications about them to other countries.

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Maybe you should read a few foreign news now and then.

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I do. Often. But you seem to assume that all UK media is untrustworthy but that all foreign media is 100% accurate. Do politicians and others always tell the truth overseas or something?

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Exactly…spot on.

No I don’t assume that, some of the news are true tbf, at least if you’re able to read between the lines :wink:, only joking.

That’s not what i said btw. To spread panic on Live TV, that this mutation is “apparently 70% more infectius”, without presenting any evidence is the point here. Maybe they wanted to scare their people or whatever, i don’t know. But you shouldn’t be surprised about a reaction over here.

Edit, I posted this already on the Corona thread

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Are you actually suggesting that foreign governments are solely reliant on UK media for news about potentially new variants and their transmitability? They put greater store in what’s said there than what the expert community is sharing via the appropriate governmental channels?

That would be a bit weird, don’t you think?

No, again, that’s not what I said. Please stop twisting it or please read my post again. Is it my bad English? I am really sorry.

Spreading panic on TV is the point here. And that is all.

Edit, I will no longer discuss it with you, you have your opinion and I have mine. Happens, but it sadly doesn’t change the way things are seen and interpreted here. Unfortunately, I can’t change it, whether you like it or not.

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Your post included a single tweet saying that “At least 3 European Countries’ govts have already contacted the UK govt to express their anger & frustration that Boris Johnson’s ministries did not communicate any warnings or even information regarding the new virulent COVID strain earlier” and you introduced that tweet by saying,

If your point was only that (3) European Countries are concerned that the UK is unnecessarily spreading panic on TV it must be very well hidden.

As I edited above, I will no longer discuss it with you, you have your opinion and I have mine. Happens, but doesn’t change the way things are seen and interpreted here. Unfortunately, I can’t change it, whether you like it or not.

I suggest that we ignore each other’s posts in the future, I’ll put you on my list now.

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Hang on. They knew about thisin September and did what exactly? Boris deserves every crtliticism he gets and more

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You think that they kept it to themselves? Didn’t share it amongst the scientific intergovernmental bodies?

The WHO seem to have already been aware of it for some time.

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No but i am accusing them of doing nothing if they did believe it was 70% more infectious.

Yet again they have been reactive rather than proactive. That is my criticsm.

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Ah, so maybe not deserving of every criticism then? :wink:

They’ve done much for which they can, should and are rightly criticised for (and I hope an independent enquiry will follow at the appropriate time to hold people to account and learn lessons), but those genuine criticisms shouldn’t become diluted by blindly assuming that every accusation or criticism is valid.

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It’s really sad and also upsetting to read this… as if the UK was a random third world country… :nauseated_face:

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Give it a few years…

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Fair enough i’m not going to argue semantics with you. I’d be onto a hiding to nothing. Compliment by the way. :laughing:

I hope you’re right on an inquiry but I fear it will be watered down and free from repercussions. These people will walk into other well paid careers.

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Haven’t you read the comment by that MP (wasn’t arsed to remember his name, but pretty bigshot) who said UN is playing politics with the project!!! Just imagine the audacity; kids are going hungry in your country and you think UN is belittling you by feeding them!!!

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Yes, regrettably I suspect you’re right. Unfortunately that’s not unique to one party or the other but seemingly an immunity enjoyed by the political classes, certainly the higher up you go the greater the apparent immunity.

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So it seems and given my fledging first steps into understanding politics i’d be tempted to argue that should change.

But it would not be easy.

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Yeah I think I saw that… wasn’t it Rees-Mogg? How anyone can decide to vote for such an imbecile is really beyond me.

The UK is still one of the richest and most powerful country. For such a country to have starving children on it’s soil is an utter disgrace. Starving people is generally the starting point of political instability and revolution, so your government should really be very careful about this.

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