Some Dominic guy on discord who keeps harping on as to how a stunning and historically awesome good job Borris Johnson has done, tells me that Nigel Farrage loves it, so it must be awesome, as he can’t be bought (according to him).
And if Farrage likes it, I am not surprised that the ERG does too.
Dominic?
Would be downright hilarious if it was him, but I don’t know if the political Dominic guy uses as many emojos and Gifs as this guy does. I kind of hope not, knowing the political Dominic is a middle aged man.
Nothing against a gif here and there or a an emojo of course (of course !!!) , but the Dominic guy on discord tells yarns as to how mighty Borris has humiliated the Eu, using GIFs and emojos. Doesn’t come across as very mature.
Let us just say that there is a fantastically big difference between your GIF-use and his…
I guess it depends on what sort of relationship with the EU you want as to which arrangement you consider better but is this an accurate reflection of what Vedum’s said? @Magnus
Worth noting that that party has always been against the EEA.
Ha. Must have read my mind as I was adding my addendum.
Absolutely a reflection of what Vedum says. Worth noting though that the primary plattform of the Agrarian Party is “Norge Ut Av EØS!” (Efta). It is the primary cause, most important to them by far.
Edit: Same with Raudt (The Marxist-Leninists), though maybe not their most important cause.
Though this is not why the Centre Party (The Agrarians) are so high on the polls. That has to do with the increased centralization, municipalities and countries that gets forcibly combined and much more. I am considering voting for them personally, a protest vote (fuck those who wants to force gigantic industrial wind mills on us who live around actual beautiful nature, forcing us to move to cities when we really want to continue living where we do, as in really, fuck them ), despite not wanting out of “EØS”.
The Agrarians are a very loyal coalition partner though, they accept EØS and everything else the majority of parliament is for, as long as they don’t have the votes (but will periodically make a lot of noise, crusading their main cause).
On another note, like professor Bernt Hagtvedt said in a class I attended, in Norway we are kind of lucky concerning the Agrarians. Because in most of Europe, agrarian interests have allied with ethnic nationalists including fascists (easy example is Italy and Liga Nord) and never ever have I heard Trygve Slagsvold Vedum’s party use rhetoric that throws a cloud on suspicions on immigrants, on skin colour or anything like that. We are very, very lucky with our Agrarians, they are National Romantic, sure, but never have they sought to exclude groups of people. Even when they want campaign against Free Movement of People, never have they ever used rhetoric that hurts Poles or Lithuanians living in Norway or anyone else. In other countries in Europe, Agrarians ally with the Far Right, so very much a different story.
In short, this is a decent enough summary of their political platform:
Close to people where they live
Good services close to where people live give them a secure and predictable daily life. Everybody has the right to have good services in their proximity. Nursery school, school, care, health, police and cultural activities must be well developed all over the country.
The entire country
The Centre Party shall further develop viable industries and a good, equitable and public service delivery, regardless of where in the country you live. We are of the opinion that every person should have real freedom to settle where they wish.
Safety and security
The present largescale centralisation of power, services and places of work creates insecure local communities. Distances increase, public services are centralised and the level of preparedness decreases. The Centre Party will improve preparedness, secure local public services and strengthen the defence sector.
Climate
Actions to improve the climate must not create larger differences between people. It is unjust that those who have little shall be punished the most, in the name of climate. “Sustainable use rather than protection” is an important mantra if we are going to be able to replace fossil energy sources. A change in a sustainable direction will create important possibilities for developing a new Norwegian industry, technological development and competence.
Food produced in Norway
If you choose food produced in Norway you are getting quality, safe and climate friendly food. Food produced in Norway is the safest and cleanest food in the world, with minimal use of chemicals and antibiotics, as well as being produced close to the consumers. Norwegian production of food both from land and from the sea must be strengthened in order for us to be able to produce more safe food close to where people live.
Local democracy
The Centre Party wants a society where people decide. We believe in a democracy where people are involved in decisions concerning them. A vibrant democracy and well functioning local communities give people safety, adherence and identity. This is the reason why we are fighting against forced merging of municipalities and counties
Defence
Norway needs a strong defence. The total preparedness must be strengthened in many parts of the country. We need a defence with both local knowledge and real capacity to defend the country. This is why the Centre Party wants to increase the number of home guards and allocate more money for defence.
Norwegian wealth creation
Norway has built its wealth creation and development through an all-time wise management of rich natural resources. In a constantly more mobile world which is in need of more energy, raw materials, food and technology, Norway is well positioned to further develop industries and wealth creation all over the country.
Norwegian sovereignty
Norwegian economic life faces constantly increasing pressure through the EEA agreement. The EEA agreement reduces Norwegian sovereignty and threatens Norwegian workers’ rights. Norway has to get out of the EEA agreement and the Schengen cooperation, as well as reintroduce national border control in order to safeguard our interests.
Trust
Many people experience that exaggerated detailed management/control removes the possibility of exerting professional judgement in their daily work tasks. We have confidence in the individual and are convinced that people who are given responsibility and freedom of action will work to ensure the wellbeing of the community. Those who wear the shoe know best where it hurts. The Centre Party will therefore implement an uplift of trust in the public sector.
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FACTS ABOUT THE CENTRE PARTY:
• In this year’s local elections you can vote for the Centre Party in 353 municipalities of the totality of Norway’s 356 municipalities.
• There are presently 105 mayors and 96 assistant mayors from the Centre Party
• Every year the last 5 years we have experienced an increase in the numbers of party members which now total 19 698 members.
Also, Agrarian party has a very charismatic leader that most Norwegians, irrespective of parties, like. His laughter is crazy and ridiculous (so far out the way he laughs that is just from a sick comedy sketch !) and basically everyone believes he is a very kind man. That helps a party, though I guess you can absolutely criticise them for populism. I am kind of cynical when it comes to politics, but it is impossible not to smile at his silly jokes and I can’t fail to like the man. He is such a fantastic funny guy who fronts not at all that a horrible politics really (except for the important stuff I don’t like, but they won’t get a majority for that anyway).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDhrZz34NtM (crazy laughter warning).
Anyway, that was a few posts with Norwegian political digression. I usually feel like Norwegian problems are some what smaller than that which you lot have to bear with, so I rarely speak about Norwegian politics on this forum.
What kind of impact Brexit is going to have on your life. Immediately and over long term? I ask those living in the UK.
My eels business is in real trouble.
If I had known UKIP was full of shit I would never have voted Leave.
My vegan cornish pasty will cost me more. And don’t mention the chocolate digestives.
In truth it will be interesting to see but I do expect the basic price for everything to go up. There will be chaos to start with as import / export gets used to it. I’m not planning any trips abroad until 2022 so can’t comment on that side.
How that then translates into other stuff will be difficult to judge but I do expect another widening of the poverty gap.
A real concern is what it means going forward. The UK is an open book and pretty weak now combined with a government who is really only interested in itself.
I thought you live in Australia 
Insulting.
Have you seen the Mad Max movies?? The reality is far worse than that…
Sunlit uplands, naturally.
Writing in today’s Telegraph, Mark Francois (Chairman of the ERG) says that he has been “pouring over the 1,246 pages of this draft International Treaty for several days…”
What did he pour? Something British, no doubt; perhaps a nice cup of tea.
Do they do a Mr Men version for Mark Francois? I think it would need simplifying for him
Deal done and voted through.
Boris got Brexit done as he said he would.
