There is a little more to it than a crap payout I think. In some instances the UK has higher average salaries and other benefits may also come into play.
But the step down from other nations to the UK is quite dramatic.
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Itās stupid but I like it 
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I have a question on travelling in the EU. From what I understand, UK citizens can travel in the EU for 90 days out of 180 days. So, if I went to Spain for 30 days, France for 30 days, Germany for 30 days within the 180 period. Does this mean, I cannot visit any EU country until 180 day period is up?
Does this rule include Schengen countries like Switzerland and Norway?
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Thatās right, from what I understand, as long as itās as a tourist (business visits are covered elsewhere) and includes Shengen countries. However, there is a new ETIAS travel autorisation in the pipeline which will take effect around the end of 2022 (so some time yet) sould be a quick online proceedure that might cost no worries for tourists business will again be different.
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That is quite restrictive in my view. My friend lives in Spain. His elderly mum come to stay with him in the winter 4 months of the year at one time. It will be difficult for him and his mum.
So, this EITAS form, is it like the one, people use to travel to the USA?
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I donāty know about specifics but it is said to be similar to the US ESTA or Canadian eTA.
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Not really. I mean wintering in another country doesnāt fall under touristic and so is probably under another catagory. Probanly just a document to fill which will become easier each year for the individual. Iāll have a look, there shouldnāt be any problem in your scenario as the mum will be staying with someone who surely has income/sponsorship to live in Spain.
My daughter went to Chile with an eTA equivalent 6 months in the year ātourist passā (2 minutes on the internet) and ended up staying (having bought a one way ticket). So once the EITAS thing comes through it will be even easier I should think.
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Thanks Flobs, my friend was getting rather worried. He has residency over there and is in the process of obtaining Spanish citizenship, he never thought about it before, when the UK was part of the EU was happy enough with the status quo of that time. Now things have changed. He has been living in Spain since the early 1990s and has his own house, financially stable and he speaks very good Spanish.
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@Maria Spain has a āFamilly Reunionā visa which costs 80 euros (itās more expensive for Canadians or Americans).
By the way these restrictions were in place before Brexit and cover just Shengen. So in theory they apply to Ireland and UK before. However, āspecial bilateral agreementsā often where implimented (the case for UK and France for example).
I donāt know how relations will change due to Brexit. I wouldnāt be surprised if āattitudesā toughen between UK and France for example. However things were very relaxed between France and UK after āthe agreementā (back in the late ā90āsā (I remember having problems up until then). So if visa are a problem it could be possible to go in and out from a country that is less likely to stamp your passport with āillegal immigrantā (just have to stay informed). I can see Spain remaining relaxed as it benefits immensely from UK expats living over there.
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As you know I am in a similar situation in France and it should be worrying for any Brit living in an EU country. They have just lost a whole host of rights that were taken for granted. Thatās why I am so angry about it. As far as Iām concerned a band of fuckwits took away my rights (you can argue thatās selfish of me but it is nowhere near as selfish as those that took my rights away). And yes people didnāt think of this so many just seemed to think live would go on as normal (even my own familly, donāt they half come out with some shit, yet I DID tell them). Just to say this Brexit shit destroyed me. I try really hard to stay calm and answer my own questions and those of others but you give me an opportunity, like this, Iām let loose. 
Anyway something good might come out of this I think the EU can move forward on some very important projects now that the UK kept blocking.
As for the UK well just as I predicted the 1st thing they look into after Brexit is workers rights and fuck are you a bunch of soft shits when it comes to protecting the rights you have. Arenāt you worried over there?
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I canāt remember if we have talked about this before, but as I understand it, France is offering Brits who have spent a minimum period of time in France the opportunity to retain some if not all of their pre-brexit rights - do you know what the effect of this is?
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If you have lived in France over 5 years you are effectively offered residency if you apply before end of July this year. Others is case by case. This is in the Brexit agreement.
The rights have gone the rights were through the EU and a bi-lateral agreement. āourā residency rights as for all immigrants are retained thatās French law just the process for residency is different due to the circumstances of how it came about. Most EU countries have similar plans I believe as do EU citizens living in the UK (My niece for example her mother is married to a Brit so doesnāt count my nephew has dual nationality).
To be honest itās not difficult but is a pain in the arse. More complicated for my brother who has a small import-export business.
No way do āweā retain the rights the EU offered us.
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Fobs, of course we are worried about workers rights, not sure what will happen, as the Government are trying to contain Covid pandemic at the moment and on top of that, we have had alot flooding up North. These are uncertain times.
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Scotland can get stuffed for now. If that sentiment remains verifiable and solid in NI though the Secretary of State is obligated to offer a referendum.
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Interesting thread on the discourse about Scottish independence
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Is that any different to eating unborn chickens?
Or calf food?
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Scottish independence canāt come quick enough for me, Iām sick of hearing about it and sick of listening to Sturgeon and Blackford. Sorry if that upsets anyone, but the sooner it happens, we can all move on.
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Just making pancakes, unborn chicken, calf food and ground plant embryos. Excellent, now for the bacon 
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Couldnāt you say the same thing about almost any political topic on Twitter though?
To me it sounds like heās just proved what we already know about social media. You get some people that are willing to discuss things logically and politely, while others become offensive and abusive. You could even the same about football threads or a host of other topics.
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