Got to be the most stupid thing I’ve ever heard / seen from Brexit.
People enjoying living, and working in Europe and voting not to have the right to do that anymore.
if there was just one brain cell present…
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My parents lived in Spain for a while and were amazed that most people they knew on the site voted for Brexit.
Most of them have also moved back to the UK now because they failed to qualify for residency (I assume based on lack of income). Of course their Facebook posts are just blaming the EU for everything.
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They’re as visible and pertinent to life as god. People believe in the theory and look to them for guidance but know there’s nothing tangible nor useful going on.
Same as for a good number of small businesses that relied on import/export to the EU. My brother has one such company (he voted to remain BTW) and was telling me most of those he meet on trade trips to Europe were for BREXIT. I wonder what they feel now. My bro is in a quandary as to how to proceed with all te problems he’s encountering above all with UK customs.
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Why would there be a lack of income? Is this a case of people working cash in hand or living off savings?
My company has decided to refuse all orders to Europe and NI at least for the time being. Far too much hassle. We are having to pay 45 euros per consignment for our normal carrier to prepare the paperwork…
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Out of curiosity, what is the product and what proportion of the usual cost would the 45E typically be?
The 45 euros example was to get the paperwork organized to deliver a pallet to a regular customer in Stuttgart… the value of the goods on the pallet is normally about £400-500. We work on quite tight margins so 45 euros is a significant extra amount over and above the actual delivery cost.
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My brother goes on trips to buy stuff in France, for each item he takes back there’s 4, different coulored forms, to fill in. At the tunnel he had to get an appointment to pass customs 1 extra night in a hotel. UK customs were the most unhelpful bastards out and kept him for 2 hours due to some prick deciding they hadn’t done things correctly (which they were sure they had) when this prick dissappeared for 5 minutes the the others waved him through.
He’s at a loss, what if he needs to spend 2 extra nights in a hotel (summer for example) what if he does actually make an error with the forms ?
The problem for him is importing from Europe for a small artisanal business. It just doesn’t appear viable anymore.
At least he didn’t get his sandwiches confiscated!
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I thought this was an interesting article
Yea, so it’s, as you say, significant and more prob than the customer would be expected or prepared to pay. I’ve had more than a few companies refuse to send stuff from GB to here. One company could send stuff but the courier would have to charge the vat and would also charge a handling charge on top of the postage etc, all for something that cost £50
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Mostly living off pensions or savings. I’m not 100% sure on the income requirements but I think it’s somewhere in the region of £3k a month.
In the past they’ve assumed they would be fine to stay as even though they were not residents, and are technically not legal in Spain, they were always just left alone because the Spanish authorities don’t care about British people’s residency status. Now they do.
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The big problem if your a pensioner from the UK living abroad, if you get £100 a week at 65, you will get £100 a week when your 90. The pension does not go up with inflation (like those living in the UK). Leaving EU meant pensions got fixed if you remained.
Those that stay see their pension get worse and worse over time.
Many pensioners also rely upon the NHS while living in France and Spain. (My parents did). Whilst they may learn enough French or Spanish to buy a coffee many lack the skills to explain or understand a doctor. Whilst not strictly allowed it’s was common.
It’s these sort of issues driving pensioners returning
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We have to do something about the influx of racist pensioners coming over here and threatening our way of life.
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Where’s Farage when we’re allowing all these immigrants into the UK?
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Not in the pub, for a change.
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Thanks @sweeting, I hadn’t realised the income requirement was set so high.
According to this https://rightcasa.com/brexit-info-how-much-money-will-uk-citizens-need-to-become-spanish-residents/ I’m not sure it is. It indicates that if you had 5 years residence before the end of last year you could apply on that basis and your income needs were less stringent. These amounts are annual.
€5,538 for an individual applicant
€9,415 for families with two members
€13,292 for families with three members
€17,169 for families with four members
An extra €3,876 for each additional family member
If you’re applying after the end of last year (essentially as a 3rd country national) the amount required as at the end of 2020 was €2,151.36 per month for an individual. It’s then not quite double for a couple.
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