UK Politics Thread (Part 1)

I think the Eton Housemaster Martin Hammond said it best way back when Boris was still studying. Some people are just incapable of change:

“Boris really has adopted a disgracefully cavalier attitude to his classical studies.

Boris sometimes seems affronted when criticised for what amounts to a gross failure of responsibility [and surprised at the same time that he was not appointed Captain of the School…]

I think he honestly believes that it is churlish of us not to regard him as an exception, one who should be free of the network of obligation which binds everyone else.”

We give Johnson a slap on the knuckles and put his dangerous actions down to stupidity, but in reality he thinks he’s god’s gift and couldn’t give two fucks about anyone else. And he (I am told) runs the country.

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yes, I’ve seen that letter to Johnson senior about Boris’s behavior at school.

I’m honestly shocked that he’s got where he has, even before becoming PM. Something seriously flawed somewhere along the line.

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That sign looks fake…interesting article here

Utter bollocks. They did exist- I personally know people who were frequently faced with these signs.

Just because this one example has been photoshopped, doesn’t mean that the signs were not there.

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At the very bottom of the article it says that Yes these signs almost certainly existed.

You only had to scroll to ‘match number 2’ on your Google Search to see the reply from Dr Tony Murray, the director of the Irish Studies Centre, London Metropolitan University, who Mr. Draper himself referenced, rubbishing Mr. Draper’s opinion. I am not sure why you are using opinion letters from the public as proof of anything in any case. Weird. What next? Letters from the public about how they were abducted by aliens?

I didn’t say the signs didn’t exist…I know they did but probably not after the 1965 Race Relations Act. It had to be more covert after that.

I said that particular one looked an obvious fake. :roll_eyes: The use of the word black in this case is an anachronism. I really doubt the term would have been used in that era immediately post war.

A cunt, talking to a cunt, about a cunt.

I don’t know what Cummins wants at this point. At every point in his tour of contrition/revenge festival/blatant attempt to get Gove in Number 10 he’s revealed what an psychotic arsehole he is.

He inflicted on the country a prime minister so intellectually and morally unsuited to the job it’s cost thousands and thousands of needless deaths, because of his zealotry to get Brexit done, itself an absolute shitshow.

I don’t mind him taking down Johnson, but he needs firmly tethering to the mast of the Good Ship Boris as it sinks beneath the waves.

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I never knew that’s how “Kuenssberg” was pronounced. You live and learn. :thinking:

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Boris Johnson’s lockdown sceptic comments echo widely discredited Great Barrington Declaration article | The Independent

Leaked WhatsApp messages from 15 October 2020 show the prime minister told his aides that Covid was not shortening the lives of its victims, that few under-60s were being hospitalised, and that he no longer believed “this NHS overwhelmed stuff”.

All the claims were made virtually word-for-word in a comment piece published just a few days before in the 11 October edition of the newspaper

Critics accused the prime minister of “believing everything he reads in the paper” and said it was “downright dangerous” for him to listen to “fringe voices and unsubstantiated views” at the expense of official advice.

Hmmm…its like I’ve seen this dance before…

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Not UK, but this is the supposed successor to Merkel talking:
“I almost never agree with the AfD, but you [AfD politician] said something true today: Everytime someone says ‘the science says’, it’s wise to question what this person is up to.”

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The science says that driving the NHS in to ruin and privatising it will make a few special people rich, and kill off the NHS as we know it.

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Hopefully die Grüne will prevent that from happening…

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I hope so, but doesn’t look like it atm. If anything Laschet’s biggest enemy is himself. Everytime he opens his mouth it’s a disaster. But then many people seem to think he’s just a harmless fool. Think I’ve seen that playbook before as well.
Anyway, sorry for the digression…

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Oh dear… if this guy ands up in the chancellor’s seat, you’ll be in for a tough ride I’m afraid…

Not that the word ‘science’ should be taken as a magic word or something, everything can and should be questioned. But to come up with such a stuuuuupid, over-generalizing public sentence in the midst of a pandemics, with still a lot of people afraid to be vaccinated, doesn’t bode well for the future I’m afraid…

One more Bolsonaro/Trump/Johnson at the helm of one of the major countries and economies of the world? Hopefully not!

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A couple of standouts (not entirely new) for me.

a) Boris considers the Telegraph his bosses.

b) Clearly there are groups and people outside parliament that influence the government, quite possible more. Thinking about it wonder if there’s more than one with Carrie on one side Cummings on the other. :thinking:

c) First open confirmation from Vote Leave that they lied.

d) That Boris in No. 10 was part of a deal as if it is part of some grand master plan. I do wonder what his ultimate game is? We know he wants to reform the political system, reorganise Whitehall, etc. Just wondering what his end goal is.

I doubt much will hit home though. He’s a bit of a damp squib these days but I bet he’s busy as f*** behind the scenes.

Anyway there’s a few dinghy’s in the channel, lets talk about them shall we?

If you are talking about the Cummings interview, I took the part about his planning to oust Johnson as meaning his usefulness being limited beyond being a highly malleable and manipulated PM for the purpose of the Brexit plan (‘a certain problem’) getting over the line, but I didn’t really even scratch below the surface in terms of thinking about what he meant.

I’m very concerned tbh. He’s mostly a standard Conservative that likes a bit of good old-fashioned corruption and nepotism, but his constant flirting with anti-science positions and lack of distancing from far-right elements in this campaign is really worrying. His right hand man behind the scenes is a hardcore fundamental Catholic btw.

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Wouldn’t be surprised if Putin wants this outcome then…