UK Politics Thread (Part 1)

Very funny, but I will have you all know that I like my meat how the French like their meat, that is, snobbish and unhelpful.

Sorry, I mean, bloody as hell!

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Thatā€™s absolutely fine.

Question is whether you actually manage to cook it that way?

By the way, a word of warning. Having your meat super rare will make burning off that growth hormone a little more awkward :wink:

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Why do you think Iā€™m 8ft tall?

Well, it does look if trade talks are over, if we are to believe the prime ministerā€™s official spokesman, James Slack:

There is only any point in Michel Barnier coming to London next week if heā€™s prepared to address all the issues on the basis of a legal text in an accelerated way, without the UK required to make all the moves or to discuss the practicalities of travel and haulage.
If not there is no point in coming.

He added: "Trade talks are over. The EU have effectively ended them by saying they do not want to change their negotiating position.

Whether this is merely sabre rattling, i.e. giving the appearance of being strong while Dom crafts Bojoā€™s ā€œplease can we stay a bit longer while we recover from the fluā€ sick note [as suggested by @Kopstar], remains to be seen.

However, the language coming out of Downing Street can hardly be seen to be conciliatory or suggestive of a preparedness to compromise.

Most people in the UK wont know what the EU position actually is, so Bojo can still claim that the EU have shifted, whether they actually have or not.

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I have wondered how difficult the EU actually has been against how much the UK team actually wants its cake and to eat it.

I can understand the EU not wanting compromise on their core principles but what we dont know is how much the UK team actually wanted to change them.

I guess the only thing we can look forward to now is the latest ridiculous comment from Rees-Mogg and Francois.

Just a simple Canada style dealā€¦ ehmā€¦ how could Iā€™ve missed the thousands of Canadian lorries on our roads that donā€™t obey our rules? :thinking:

Hopefully this annoying charade ends now, I donā€™t have much sympathy left tbh.

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Iā€™m beginning to think there should be a comedy show based around what this guy says.

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I think it is somewhere between the two. Based on my observations from climate change negotiations and CETA, the EU can be extremely difficult to deal with. Once a set of fundamental principles is agreed upon among the member states, it is virtually impossible to move the EC from it. Going back to the member states to reconsider directives is essentially catastrophic failure. It is ironic that the Brexiteers should have an approach to the negotiations that simply doesnā€™t reflect one of the their identified frustrations with the EU. The EU set out its stall very early on, and once it does that, the EU really doesnā€™t negotiate. For some reason, the UK seems never to have taken seriously the stated EU core principles, seemingly believing there was some bluff that can be called.

Correspondingly, however, the EU is absolutely aware of how frustrating they are to deal with. Within the framework of their intransigent principles, they will make no end of concessions in order to try to reach a deal that stays within the lines of the directive from the member states. That level of negotiation doesnā€™t appear to have ever started, and now, it would appear there will not be time for it.

Note - the halloumi question is still unresolved, despite the compromise during negotiations.

It is in fact, quite nice hot smoked on the grill. I think the last one I did was Danish halloumi, not quite sure how that works.

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There is a part of me that thinks this has all been a sham. The fact that the EUā€™s stance has come as an alleged surprise feels a bit lame to me.

Halloumi has always been far too squeaky when BBQā€™d to be taken this seriously.

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After urging Local Authorities to push through Covid response Active Travel Plans, and being very clear that there would be no time for consultation or engaging with stakeholders, Grant Schapps has today written to Local Authorities criticising them for rushing through their active travel plans without consultation or engagement with stakeholders, and withholding phase two money from them leaving the work they have done in tatters.

Itā€™s Orwellian at this point.

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But it will all be worth it in the long run, right?

Right?

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Well, at the very least, Britainā€™s right to produce British halloumi will continue unchained.

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I worry about the tariffs on our maple syrup exports.

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My little one will be mortified. Saturday is pancake day!

Little known fact, there is an International Strategic Reserve of maple syrup in Quebec. Thatā€™s right, we are the OPEC of maple syrup.

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I actually did know that. I think you mentioned it on TIA!

The UK never stood a chance!

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Can you please explain to my 6 year old why our Australia type deal will not deliver his Maple syrup from Canada, even though they have enough capacity for the whole world.

I think the plan is to ship it all to Northern Ireland and see what happens.

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