UK Politics Thread (Part 1)

Yeah, that and the not having the right maple tree bit.

Weirdly, that is one of the items that was set to a zero tariff, and then was announced to be subject to a tariffs in the future. I really have no idea what the thinking was.

To tie the two great trade crises together, I tried ‘brie fondant’ (brie in maple syrup garnished with pecan or walnuts baked in an oven) done with halloumi and chili. Fantastic.

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One rule for one, another rule for another.

The council should just bulldoz the lot.

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yeah. 3 properties built without planning and then no council tax payments for 18 years or whatever.

But it’s all fine, unless you’re anyone else.

Just wrong

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That’s one of my favourite known facts to know! Didn’t it suffer a theft at one point threatening the worlds supply? I love how there is a black market for maple syrup.

You are undoubtedly referring to the Great Canadian Maple Syrup Heist

Netflix show Dirty Money even has an episode dedicated to it.

With so few winter activities for kids, I have been contemplating making our own next Spring (with much of the pre-collection work happening in February).

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liberals are such sore winners, but using ‘anti-american’ as a pejorative in reference to bolivian politics is even more telling

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Is that a pejorative in that context? The Bolivian opposition is fairly anti-American, albeit I would say they have cause to be.

Seems odd that any one would be scrutinizing what Corbyn does now anyway. He was always something of an oddity, one would hardly expect different from him at this point of his career when he must be firmly in the ‘fuck it’ stage.

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Because he has a cool name :upside_down_face:

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corbyn’s real sin was always his anti-imperialism, as reflected in this shitlib critic’s perverse framing of post-coup bolivia. he doesn’t see bolivian or iranian lives as worth less than that of brits or IDF soldiers, and he wanted to tax rich people. for this, he was relentlessly smeared as a raving genocidal bigot

israel is a vessel for empire’s interests, that’s why ghouls like mike pompeo are hardcore zionists. criticizing apartheid doesn’t dishonor holocaust victims. get fucked

obviously the vile, cynical smears they killed corbyn with weren’t buried with him

mr human rights starmer whipped abstentions against the spy cop bill because he is a vessel of empire’s interests

got that key endorsement from anti-racist icon jeremy clarkson though

Firstly I do not know what q anon is.
Secondly everything I said is true and is well documented - especially by the journalist and author John Pilger (amongst many others) who has an exemplary record of investigative journalism. for over 40 years.
Finally my comments were in response to a discussion with Mascot regarding whether voting is actually worthwhile in the UK and the USA (both “democracies” in name) - so its not the wrong thread.

Heres another fact to support my opinion - In the 2016 Democratic Nominations,Bernie Sanders won every county (55) in West Virginia. The Democratic party of West Virgina nominated Clinton as their candidate.This was repeated in many other states.

Its not just about votes cast on polling day - its about who gets selected to run for office in the first place - who has influence - the Old Boys network at play in the Conservative party for instance. A root and branch overhaul of the political system is required on both sides of the Atlantic.

Your comments are yet another illustration of how this medium takes things out of context, does not allow for nuance, investigation or any semblance of balance - alas this is the state of the world - everything boiled down to a 1 minute reaction.

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Probably not a clever move to spout bullshit to a former PM and one that happens to be within your own party.

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This is not going to go down well.

Basically I don’t trust him and his motives. But you have to respect his mandate :roll_eyes:

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Not the smartest cookie is she? How can you “remain” when you’ve already left?

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Exactly!

It was the kind of logic you expect from someone on Twitter. Before he was the leader he campaigned on remain. After he became leader he no longer championed remain. Very machiavellian by Starmer :roll_eyes: .

Kind of ignores the reality, that today there is no leave or remain. Its too late. The referendum happened in 2016, the withdrawal agreement signed in January 2020. Starmer did not become a leader until April 2020.

No one is fighting the battle for remain as there is no mechanism for this to be achieved, bar a collapse of the government.

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Simply unaware, not understanding the facts I feel which is pretty embarrassing for an MP. I note that she is not the only one, with a host of other MP’s simply failing to understand what the hell leaving means, whether we have actually left and the best of the bunch, what “no deal” actually means for the UK.

The battle should be and is purely about getting the best for the UK through the transition period, Clearly Starmer understands this and is simply watching the Government create their own car crash.

It’s kind of sad, but typical that Boris and co tried to dress up an Australia type deal as some kind of deflection to what it actually is. We are in a sad state.

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Add to that (from other part of interview) given the antisemitism issues for Len McCluskey to tell Peter Mandelson to go away and count his money… …is well…being kind to him …naive at very best.

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Absolute gift for Starmer. Well in Diane :+1:

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it’s anti-semitic to make fun of people for resigning over financial impropriety

Why do certain members of the Labour Party seem so intent on creating or perpetuating division? Either within the party itself with the attacks on Starmer personally or by trying to keep the arguments from the EU referendum running through the electorate?

For me Starmer seems to recognise, quite properly, that his politics ought to be about bringing people back together (particularly Labour leave voters who voted Conservative at the last election). Brexit is done. If there’s a question for supporters of the EU it is about trying to prepare the ground for rejoining as soon as the political climate might be conducive. I don’t think it will ever be but it certainly won’t be now for at least five years.

The political landscape that Starmer now recognises is one in which he’s charged with bringing both sides together to work for a common purpose; the best the UK can be outside of the EU. That’s a must if he’s to have aspirations of winning the next election. I wish it had happened sooner but there we are. Who knows, had Labour adopted this approach from 2017 they may not have been trounced in the last election? They may also have been able to shape a Brexit deal more in line with their own objectives.

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