No. I spoiled my vote at the last election.
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The ābankrupting the countryā thing is a myth and always has been.
Iām looking at a Conservative Party that is responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of lives through their mismanagement of the pandemic, and have used the crisis as a means of funnelling billions in to the pockets of their own interests. And thatās the tip of a really shit iceberg.
Whatever gripes anyone has about the Labour party, they pale into insignificance next to this. I think at this point, regardless of your political persuasion there is a moral obligation to not vote for them at the next election. A vote for them endorsed them to continue this agenda.
And before anyone says Iām being partisan, I made exactly the same argument about Labour in the aftermath of the Iraq war.
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Why itās almost as if some global catastrophe happened around 2008, which forced Labour to suddenly have to borrow money and increase national debt.
Iām always staggered how of ignorant we are of our own history. Like how few people understand why the First World War happened. But here we are, fifteen years after a global finance crisis and people seem to actually think that we had a recession because Labour spent some money on making sure kids didnāt starve and old ladies didnāt freeze to death.
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Self and mutual masturbation?
Behave like pigs in shit?
I guess I want there be a clear reason for voting Labour - not that it will help where I live.
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I see yet another row in the Labour camp has erupted yesterday / today. Now over the minimum wage.
Crikey this is so frustrating that the people behind this are so utterly thick. That is the only way I can describe them.
One side saying minimum wage should be Ā£15/hr, Starmer saying thatās not affordable and Ā£10/hr should be what weāre looking at. the Ā£15/hr crowd then show a picture of Starmer with McDonalds employees asking for Ā£15/hr and accuse Starmer of lying.
FFS the solution is so fucking simple but this lot are happy to rip themselves to shreds just to create a political point and at the same time give the Conservatives a nice knees up.
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What is the solution?
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You star with Ā£10/ hr and argue thatās all thatās possible thanks to the governments appalling handling of the pandemic and Brexit. Prices are already going up it would be irresponsible to add another lump to that problem. Plus you also state that the whole economy is screwed because you have people on the lowest wages being propped up by tax payers instead of the businesses they work for.
You also then commit to increase the minimum wage in a phased manner so that you can reverse the balance between benefits propping up low wages but you also look at tax breaks for small businesses to reduce the burden on them but look very carefully at the likes of Amazon, Tesco etc. that all pay next to nothing in tax.
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I wasnāt referring to the last time, more that repeatedly their sums never seem to add up to anything realistic.
Itās still a myth. There is an idea that the Tories have to ride to rescue every time Labour are in power because the trash the economy. It isnāt true and it never has been.
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Lol if that was a fact labour would never had been out of power
Care to give some examples?
And are the sums of the manifesto of the Conservatives better?
How was the economy in the seventies that lead to Thatcher getting to power?
Care to give examples of how labour have never trashed the economy?
That sounds precisely like what the Conservatives are already planning to do?
I donāt think that will ever happen, given the current situation. This is one of the things that irks me the most about the whole mess. It seems as though itās an identity war of right versus left over who gets to own the party, rather than an actual ideological war where ideas are being debated, values are being discussed and appropriately prioritised as a matter of policy-making. And perhaps, a consensus that
Couple that with the prevailing short-termist decision-making that seems to pervade culturally in the Anglosphere, it doesnāt bode well. What you suggested is far too complex, requiring too much thinking into the future. It doesnāt fit into a soundbite, or a clip that can be advertised on social media or on headline-grabbing news. It instead gets relegated to little things like manifestos that nobody reads.
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Including the tax portion? That would be news to me.
Yes. A move away from taxing bricks and mortar and more effectively taxing the online retailers.
Do you have a source I could read more on? I will admit I havenāt paid that much attention to political news lately.
Labour has never left office with unemployment lower than it was when they went in.