Or just a person that has Lawyerish traits? Maybe its a DNA thing, a new human species.
For the record I wear boxers.
What evidence have you seen that this version of the Conservatives are supportive of big business?
Six short emails that take a minute to write? Six units of chargeable time in one 6-minute unit.
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Surely being brief isnât a lawyerly traitâŚ
Thanks, I thought he would be the one tbh, a few friends and work colleagues all seem to tout him , seems to have a touch of common sense. Question is though would he want the job
Good question. Not a huge amount, but they certainly wonât tax them either. They also seem to be very open to being lobbied from some. They do pride themselves on being the party for business owners.
Quite right, one could also argue whether a lawyer is human.
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Youâre right though - Solicitors tend to be too wordy. Barristers are generally much more succinct. Itâs a great skill.
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I concur
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Iâve typed out a few responses to this. Deleted all of them as they ultimately lead to our eternal disagreement regarding politics. Thankfully, Iâve just read this on the BBC:
Sir Keir Starmer is at the centre of a row over left-wing demands for Labour to back increasing the minimum wage to ÂŁ15 an hour.
Labourâs conference is expected to pass a motion later calling for this to be party policy.
Frontbencher Andy McDonald resigned on Monday, saying the leadership had ordered him to argue against the rise, making his position âuntenableâ.
The leadership is keen to avoid an open row on the issue.
It says it will not encourage members to back or reject the motion, which, if it passes, will not automatically become Labour policy.
Itâs pretty simple really. Labour (from my point of view and thatâs a person who mainly consumes the massively left wing BBC) have absolutely zero stance, zero position, zero engagement with the electorate and bugger all charisma. The above quote is essentially Labour saying they have no opinion.
For Labour to win the next election:
- Sack Diane Abbot and Corbyn
- COME UP WITH SOME ACTUALLY PLANS AND PUBLICISE THEM!!!
Itâs not tricky, not difficult, tell us now what youâll do and then bang on about them till election time. Put VAT up to 25% with the extra 5% going to the NHS or schools or the police or similar. Come up with something, anything. But they always fail and thatâs shameful for the opposition. Theyâve failed to hold one of the worst governments in history to task. Yes I know itâs whataboutism but if you canât throw bricks at the floor, you sure as shit canât run the country. People know this and will continue to vote accordingly.
Whatâs Labourâs stance on:
Funding public services
Defence
Education
Foreign Policy
Brexit
Trade
etc etc etc
Nobody has any idea as the party is too busy arguing to tell us. Only when they ACTUALLY SAY SOMETHING will people take notice.
Boris is a fool but he isnât an idiot. He only need carry on as he does and weâll still be here in 10 years. Labour has to do 8000 times more than just argue with itself. Trouble is, they just havenât realised this yet.
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I just googled the labour party, this is the current website:
https://action.labour.org.uk/page/90768/action/1?ea.tracking.id=splash-page
No message, no stance.
Then the opening stance on the actual website:
Stronger Together
Stronger Together is Labourâs roadmap to develop key policies ahead of the next General Election.
It is our chance to take on the challenges of the post-crisis world and grasp the opportunities of the future. To build a future that everyone in Britain can be proud of.
Words purely for the sake of having words with not the slightest indication of a plan or direction.
Itâs easier to find fault with the opposition than the worst government in living memory.
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Anyone know much about the https://gov2.uk/ stuff? I saw it referenced for the first time yesterday (or the day before) but other than it being some self-proclaimed attempt to speak truth to power I donât know anything about it.
Good thing you edited your post about the BBC being left wing. Left wing with Laura Kuensberg and previously Andrew Neil on the books. Righto.
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I think they have announced a number of plans (I think one of the commentators on twitter gave the number of around 200 since Starmer took over.) The problem I alluded to earlier this week is that the party is effectively in a state of civil war with at least one faction seeking to bring down the leadership regardless of cost.
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I was only taking the next logical step following the complex life comments in the Religion thread.
good ole Humphrey
Odd thing isnât it. Iâll argue itâs further to the left than Corbynâs passenger seat and some consider it to be to the right.
Itâs always a bit of an odd place to be as an opposition party. Announcing things that youâd do if youâre in government when everyone knows that youâre not and wonât be for probably at least 3 more years.
Itâs a thankless task! The responsible thing to do is to say that your policies are conceptual at the moment as they cannot be better defined until everyone knows what the circumstances are in 2/3 years time. But that sounds vague and waffling. People want a clear vision!
But then you donât want to give a clear vision when circumstances may change and you have to abandon it in 2 years time - as then youâll be accused of making it up as you go along or not sticking to your principles or whatever. Tough call really.
I also hate the tendency of opposition parties (and I do feel Labour are more guilty of this than the Conservatives were when they were in opposition) of plucking ridiculous figures out of the air as if to impress the electorate. ÂŁ28 billion on green industries was it? Thatâs meaningless and people think youâre just pulling numbers out of your arse.
Donât give us figures. Tell us what youâd actually do to encourage businesses and industry to be greener. What innovation would you encourage? What tangible things would you implement or change? Something that people can picture, not just put a bullshit figure on things.
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No, I think itâs very simple as things tend to be. We will do X if elected. Make X pertinent to current voters and Bobâs your uncle.
In all honesty how many people are actually even following or interested in party conferences. Apart from the Westminster bubble and the media. I saw a voxpop a few months ago where hardly anyone on the streets of Liverpool could even name the present leader of the Labour Party. They even showed his picture and they could barely find anyone to offer a sensible suggestion as to who it wasâŚ
I can pretty much guarantee that I could go out there today and ask if anyone can tell me what has been happening at the conference this week and I bet less than 10% could offer a half credible answer.
We really vastly overestimate the interest of the general public in politics in this country and that is the problemâŚ
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No, the problem is that the public has little idea of politics because the politicians these days are too scared to have an opinion.
Shoot murderers and rapists, that would win votes. As an example.