To protect that zone I think they will need the whole fleet won’t they?
What are they going to do shoot French and Danish fishermen?
Filming some of the cat and mouse that might go on could get quite fun. 
Go on give me an example, I’ll go 1st a tennis ball, Oh wait that was a play. 
I reckon your British. 
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They’re just going to set up a perimeter of speakers and play Elgar.
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East Mid England Angle, Scot and Irish ancestry. Tae fck
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bit of a relief tbh Maria. The DUP pushed for Brexit hoping for a hardening of the border. What we seem to have ended up with is the best of both worlds, free trade with the EU and the UK but with some checks on goods between us and GB at the Irish sea borders. Ironically, the department charged with the job of setting up the Irish sea border checks is a DUP minister. The downside is that many unionists here are feeling uneasy and unhappy with the sea border. Presumably there will need to be some checks on people crossing from NI to GB as well as some goods, as it will theoretically be possible to sail or fly from France/EU into ROI and travel to NI and jump on a ferry or plane to GB. This will be a real point of friction for the NI unionist community if there is anything like a passport check between us and GB.
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There are 20 days left to find some sort of compromise and solution this is not the way of diplomacy. Ordinary people’s livelihoods are at risk. The UK govt officials are cutting their noses off to spite their faces which is self destructive imo.
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Midlands but heart is in Devon, scot and Welsh ancestry (with a hint of russian) now a die hard European.
Bring that war on. 
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Sounds similar to the May deal that the DUP torpedoed because they’re cunts?
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Can’t they just fly from Dublin without going to the North under the CTA or have I not been paying enough attention recently.
It’s strange times. On a zoom chat with some of my mates. There were 5 of us, I’m the only Brexiteer. We’re all pretty well educated and have decent careers.
The 4 Remainers were outraged that Merkel apparently wouldn’t take Johnson’s call. Were very pissed off with that, thought it incredibly disrespectful.
I was the only one saying “why would she? The negotiations are with the EU not individual countries. They’re not going to let themselves be divided and conquered, and certainly not at the eleventh hour”. So the Brexiteer is defending Merkel and the Remainers are having a go at her.
What’s needed is more time. But that’s too sensible so obviously won’t happen.
yea, they could under CTA but the issue of being asked for a passport between NI and GB has been raised as an issue by unionist commentators alongside the checks on goods. It’s easy to see the loophole/issue, fly from the EU to ireland, transfer onto GB, no checks under the CTA, easy also to drive up to Belfast and head on over from there.
@Livvy, you were right.
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England is the country i have visited most(more than all others combined) yet it is the only country i’ve been to where i don’t ever recall being asked for my passport and it didn’t matter if i was flying in from Ireland or somewhere else.
If they feel Ireland is a roundabout way into mainland Britain for foreign nationals i don’t see how that happens if passports are checked in departure airport as they usually are.
If they are not gonna ask to see passports due to CTA then it is unlikely that Unionists are gonna be asked when flying from Belfast into other UK airports.
There is also a lot of UK citizens,particulary in the North,who have had no problem taking up an Irish passport in order to travel without borders in Europe.
From the BBC’s story on BREXIT today. To be expected I guess:
Meanwhile the Ministry of Defence has said four Royal Navy patrol boats are ready to protect UK fishing waters.
Relax Maria. Most of the national leaders make their people look like idiots or thugs.
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A lot of people don’t need their leaders to do that for them.
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The UK has not been able to feed itself since the early C19th. Even for an industrial economy, it is unusually dependent on imported food. And by the 1970s, a mixture of bad harvests, population growth, inflation & the collapse of Commonwealth agreements was starting to bite.
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In 1974, for example, Caribbean sugar imports dropped by a third, as producers abandoned Commonwealth trade agreements and sold to more lucrative markets elsewhere. Supermarkets introduced informal rationing, and consumer organisations urged the public to stop buying sugar.
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Later that year, the Ministry of Agriculture warned that Canada might suspend grain exports if the currency continued to decline. In November, Margaret Thatcher had to open her cupboards to journalists to prove that she wasn’t hoarding food.
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1974 also saw a bakers’ strike, in response to rising costs and falling real wages. Some suppliers restricted shoppers to a single loaf each, prompting queues outside bakeries at dawn. Conservative MPs again raised the prospect of rationing.
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The UK had joined the EEC in 1973, but was still operating under transitional arrangements on food and farming. So the 1975 EEC referendum saw a serious debate, of the kind we don’t seem to be capable of anymore, about what leaving might mean for the supply and price of food.
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Leave campaigners argued that prices would be higher in Europe, because production costs were greater and the Common Agricultural Policy was designed to ensure farmers a decent wage. Barbara Castle compared shopping bags in London and Brussels, as a warning against EEC prices.
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Pro-Europeans responded by pointing to rising prices across the world. The days of cheap food from compliant colonial markets, they warned, were over. European prices might, in some years, be higher, but Britain would at least have a guaranteed source of supply.
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As Margaret Thatcher warned: “In Britain we have to import every second meal. Sometimes we shall pay less in the Community, & sometimes we shall pay more. But we shall have a stable source of supply, & most housewives would rather pay a little more than risk a bare cupboard”.
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The leader of the National Farmers’ Union warned of “a clear threat to continued regular food supplies if Britain left the Market”. Voters were urged to think of the EEC as “the Common Super-Market. Well-stocked shelves; plenty of choice and just around the corner”.
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The food economy has changed radically since the 1970s. Production has boomed, transportation has improved & prices have fallen. At the same time, Britons have become less suspicious of “Continental” food, & used to abundant supplies reliant on “just-in-time” delivery chains.
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Yet food poverty remains a desperate social problem. In the year before the pandemic, foodbanks gave out 1.9 million food parcels. The poorest 10% of households spend more than double the share of income on food of the richest. If prices rise, we know who will suffer most.
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47 years after joining the EEC, it’s legitimate to ask whether the old arguments for membership still hold. What’s less forgivable is the stunning incuriosity of those tasked with delivering Brexit about why Britain joined, what changed with membership, & what’s now at stake.
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Perhaps Brexiters can find better solutions to the challenges that drove the UK to join. But pretending those challenges did not exist - as if Conservatives like Thatcher, Heath & Macmillan embraced membership in some bizarre spasm of irrationality - is a recipe for disaster.
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Brexit requires us to rethink nearly every major policy choice since 1973. If we don’t understand why those choices were made, we won’t be ready for the decisions that lie ahead. If tweeting for lolz is the best we can do, the joke will deservedly be on us in 2021. [ENDS]
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So they elect a suitable leader 
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Point 16 should have been ismf , that the original referendum was joining only as a trading block and not as a political union, but the fact that the EU is based on lies and deceit and successive UK governments have lied to the people is to be expected
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