UK Politics Thread (Part 2)

OP has a long history of that.

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Maybe I should just subscribe to a sweeting approved list of websites huh?

But I do like the fact that they have other categories that I have a passing interest in, such as a wellbeing / history and environmental pages to name a few.

But I’ll stop reading them because it may be russian disinformation and may need to be fact checked



You can read whatever you want, but if you post sources like this then I’ll call it out. Hopefully it stops anyone else drinking the poison you are taking.

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I think you should stop reading them because they are fucking batshit.

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Have you been playing on the pop?

OK, niche I grant you.

Others beat me to it.

A Health Secretary who smokes, and has a history of taking bungs from the tobacco industry, working for a Prime Minister who also has links to the tobacco industry, plans to drop action plan on smoking.

It’s like they can’t even be arsed hiding it now.

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Because with the rate that makers get fleeced with taxes, any government that outright bans smoking will be fucking the economy for the forseeable future.

Unless they raises taxes on everything else and then listen to the public cry about how much taxes they have to pay

Surprisingly, bang on AGAIN:

If only there were some way of the government raising £100bn without lumbering taxpayers with the bill…

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Not really.

Smoking raises about £10bn for the treasury.

Smoking related illness costs the NHS about £3bn. There will be more costs to the economy beyond that.

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So the Tobacco industry is currently boosting the Treasury by £7bn. Where do you exxpect that to come from if smoking is banned?

And lets not forget, if they do ban smaoking, people will still import tobacco, so the costs for smoking related illnesses will still be there, but won’t have the taxes to cover it - meaning the NHS will need to find that £3bn from somewhere.

Nobody’s talking about banning though. It’s a plan to reduce smoking.

Payment of benefits and loss of productivity from those with smoking related illness being the obvious ones.

I don’t think it would be £7bn. That is just the cost to the NHS. There will also be many other impacts on the economy, through things like reduced productivity, early deaths, smoking related sickdays, people being less able to take part in leisure activities etc.

I would expect it to be neutral or possibly slightly higher.

But even if there is a small cost - a few billion, it’s not a lot of money in the grad scheme of things. The budget just cost £65m.

Yes but we all know there’s a far more cynical reason that the government won’t ban smoking.