UK Politics Thread (Part 2)

…Or just stay torn down.

The journey from, say, central Africa to Europe is arduous and dangerous. Setting out with children or elderly people would be madness. For young women there are obvious perils.
On arrival, young single men are more flexible and adaptable in terms of housing and employment. Once settled, they send large chunks of their earnings home, or try to arrange for their families to join them. Neither of these options is easy.
This pattern of behaviour among migrants, either refugees or economic migrants, has existed for hundreds, or maybe thousands of years.

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Well of course it’s down to the government.
There’s a list longer than your arm that the government should be putting right.
No more ironic that the very people who rescue illegal immigrants rely on charity and receive no government funding.

So much that needs to be fixed as a higher priority on government resources.

Except, 55% of all asylum claims were accepted, not to mention those were being appealed and would probably still be accepted after appeal.

That said however, the initial grant rate for men was 14% while it was 90% for women.

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I don’t envy any immigrant having to deal with the DWP. Not wanting to tar all of the staff with the same brush, but my lad’s ‘handler’ is a horrible bi*ch. He became unemployed during Covid and she has gone out of her way to make it awkward for him. He’s asked countless times if he could be excused certain times for when he has to attend the Job Centre (between 8.30 and 9.15 AM and 3.00- 4.00 PM on certain days). He has shared custody of my Grandson and sometimes has to get him to and from school. Every week she makes sure that his appointment is during those times.
To cut a long story short he’s reported her to his line manager. But it shouldn’t have needed to come to that. :rage::nerd_face:

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The government has political licence to do that because they’ve been demonising poor people for an eternity. It’s always about welfare “cheats” and never about the tax dodgers.

The DWP doesn’t actually do anything to really help people get employment again, it’s just there to make it as hard as possible for people to claim benefits, and is effectively genocide against poor/disabled people with some of its actions.

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This crossed my mind the other day in a way. Standard of living in the UK. I could argue that it is lower in the UK than in many places and yet we are the 6th / 7th biggest economy on the planet. Doesn’t feel right somehow.

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Michelle Mone sits quietly in the corner liking this post whilst stuffing fifties into her bra.

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Good grief, that map is simply stunning. That is an 18-year variance!

It is as you say simply stunning - it is almost a 20 year difference for women.

Sadly, there are probably similar maps for most of the “1st world” - including and especially the US where extreme divergences in wealth and access to health care exist. The divergence in the UK seems more surprising (and so possibly more systematically entrenched) as heath care is “uniformly” and “universally” available…

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Unless I’m reading it wrong, there’s not many living past 70.
Not buying that, and would question who put it together, how they put it together and who paid for it.

For what it’s worth, I do hope you will be a systemic wonder and outlier and live to become a gnarly self righteous ancient :wink:

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Not to dismiss those concerns, but it is an average and it probably has something like a Weibull distribution (long thin tail on the right hand side of the graph for those older than probably about 75). All things being equal, with an average of 70, there is going to be significant variance - and in an area with deprivation that is pulling down the average, you would expect the variance to increase.

To Canada’s national shame, I suspect a similar map for Canada would have a strong correlation with First Nations population distribution.

edit: data source is the Office of National Statistics, which likely means more to you than me.

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My wife use to work for an organisation that mapped health, lifestyle and genetics across Scotland. There were postcodes in Glasgow that had the lowest life expectancy in Europe.

Drugs, alcohol and diet were the primary drivers.

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I think it is probably accurate and somewhat official data being used. I’ve seen it discussed in the media by reliable commentators over the last 12 months along with the suggestion that the government is considering changes to the state pension age - with the idea of it dropping in those areas where significant numbers of people are living much shorter span that the average.

Mark Drakeford has said that he is expecting a snap election soon,so my most important question for anyone living in Wales or Scotland is where does the extra money from Alcohol Minimum Unit Pricing actually go?
I’ll obviously exclude @Dane from answering as the poor bugger has only had one can of Guinness in the last month(slacker) :frowning_face:

Seems like my previous post didn’t generate a lot of business 33p now

I guess no-one will want it even if they pay you.
Go on @mascot support the mail :wink:

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Firstly, this Independent survey is generally going to attract Remainers: run the same survey questions in The Daily Heil and you are likely going to get very different results.

Secondly, even if the sentiment were this strong generally, would the EU even want the UK basketcase back?

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I can’t help but feel it would not go well for the UK…

So you voted to leave but now, after only a few years, you want to rejoin??