UK Politics Thread (Part 2)

Nah, you could always just bribe your way back in.
Eh, allegedly.

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It stays with the retailers. Itā€™s not a tax.

Itā€™s worth finding the reports on alcohol consumption during the corona pandemic because the minimum pricing still had an effect but was massively swamped everywhere by the effect of stopping people socialising.

It does seem to indicate that social interactions are far more important with problematic drinking than purely economic levers.

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It doesnā€™t surprise me. I think there was something Iā€™ve read or watched about addiction, which also points out how much of it is situational ā€“ you receive particular stimuli associated with the addictive act/substance and it triggers you into craving that.

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Thatā€™s isnā€™t how surveys generally work. The Independent will have commissioned a pollster who will have made sure the sample (usually around 3000 people) is representative.

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Yeah you are probably right. I am interested to see how important this issue will be at the next election. We might see this reflected in Lib-Demā€™s take from the Tories loss.

Iā€™m fairly convinced that polls/surveys which actually mean fuck all, are often un-representative of votes which actually matter.

Is this something youā€™ve thought about, or is this just a feeling?

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We notice the minority of polls which are inaccurate and ignore the majority that are correct. Just like the weather forecast.
Why would so much polling, market research and surveying be carried out if it was without merit?

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I based it on this.

If TIA @Dane was Dane 1.0, I was hoping TAN Dane was going to be Dane 2.0, but sadly heā€™s Dane 0.5

Coincidentally, itā€™s my new years resolution to improve

I am very upset after last nightā€™s debacle.

Is this the right thread to visit to be cheered up?

Itā€™s more fun than the post match thread anyway.

This might cheer you upā€¦

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But pollsters do have their own idiosyncracies which leads to differences in their results (for example how they account for Donā€™t Knows isnā€™t all the same).

I havenā€™t read the Independentā€™s article yet but I did see a commentator on twitter comment on a recent poll (donā€™t know if it was this one or another one) which I think suggested that the support wasnā€™t as strong as implied.

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Surveys:

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Iā€™ve said to friends and family that Iā€™d like to see National Service (NS) reintroduced. I personally think itā€™d be an eye_opener for many young people. :nerd_face:

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Iā€™d sooner go to prison than see my kids be corralled into national service.

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The point isnā€™t about NS (as you know) itā€™s about how to manipulate opinion polls.

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You sure @Commando you not just looking to drum up a bit of trade :0)

Another way which Iā€™ve seen once before with regards to Brexit polling, though canā€™t remember where, is to give a 3rd option. Eg.

Would you want another referendum on Brexit?

a) Yes
b) No
c) Yes but must retain control of borders and migration and have a choice of passport colours.

Then amalgamate total votes for a and c to get your answer.

and hereā€™s one more just for fun.

Would you rather support Everton or Man United?

Then report it as 7 out of 10 Liverpool fans say they would rather support Everton.