There was a time I’d have been for it, simply to teach the younger generation how to be disciplined and respectful.
Not now though.
Not sure it would work in this modern age because the recruits would all be lawyered up even before they joined up
Which is why polling is fine, but the reports on the polling aren’t. I usually prefer to read the results directly, i.e. with the full question and the results for each option presented.
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Firstly why aren’t we utterly enraged by this? Secondly, the government’s response? Blame GP’s and nurses.
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It’s always someone else’s fault.
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Only if you confiscate their telephones, or better still just get rid of any way to recharge them. 
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‘Younger generation’ are already much more respectful than the boomers who are fucking things up for future generations while preparing for a wealthy retirement
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National service for boomers. Now we’re fucking talking.
Lads, you were given the NHS, the welfare state, legal aid, the property boom, a triple lock on your pension, and the greatest surge in living standards on record, and to say thanks you voted for Brexit, twelve years of Tory policies that even Thatcher would wince at, and created a climate crisis. So get to work.
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Who is that aimed at?
It’s heartbreaking, but really this has been happening now in slow motion for 12 years. It’s an entirely Tory creation, and it’s entirely on purpose.
This is a really interesting article. I think it shows the Tories inheriting a health service in 2010 that was well regarded and appreciated by patients, and being gradually destroyed, to where we are now - with patient satisfaction at the lowest it’s been since 1997, which is another key date - as that’s when the Tories were turfed out last time.
https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/blog/2022/03/public-satisfaction-nhs-falls-25-year-low
Nobody should be trying to argue that isn’t political, that Labour would be just as bad or whatever. That isn’t how it works. The Tories run down the NHS. Labour rebuilds it.
The sad thing is that we should know this. The Conservative long game has always been how to introduce a private sector profit potential to the NHS. The Tory party is full of individuals with links to private healthcare, insurance companies and the like. Some of them have authored books and papers on how to privatise the NHS.
The NHS gets a lot of our money. It’s by any measure well funded. The problem is that the Tories have reduced huge sections of the NHS to a commissioning role, referring people to private providers and paying the bill. This culture of topslicing, which is so prevalent in the NHS, is where the money is going.
This goes right to the heart of Tory politics. We make the mistake of thing the Tories have a constituency of voters to satisfy. They do have voters (not as many as assumed) but their primary constituency is the corporate interests they are intertwined with. They are in politics to extract as much money out of the public purse and divert it into the private sector, and specifically their preferred companies. We saw this sharply with Covid, but it’s the way they operate across multiple portfolios.
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Yep I agree only arguing that they have already put in place numerous profit pulling schemes. Why else would the NHS need so many managers? They are there to manage contracts issued to separate organisations.
It’s now at a level where it’s broken. It’s become about managing contracts rather than delivering health care.
Question to all. Would you now visit A&E if you had a minor injury? Broken bone in your hand or perhaps a nasty cut, knowing that you’re likely to be there for over 8hrs before being seen?
A few years ago I went to A&E because I sliced by hand open. Really nasty gash that needed cleaning out and dressing. If I did the same thing again, I wouldn’t go. I’d try and sort it myself.
Same. I think I broke my hand a couple of months ago. I’ve got a plate in there from my rugby days and I’m pretty sure I did some real damage in there. Strapped it up and ignored it best I could. It’s still not 100% right.
I may look at investing in Superglue. If people are going to start home treating cuts I should be well in.
A video from simpler times
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That went well, didn’t it.
You’ve not seen the younger generation near where I live @Dane. Not wanting to tar a whole generation with the same brush. But I’ve seen “youths” in various areas around here who (IMO) would benefit from NS. 
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True story.
My lad was about 18, he’s 29 now, and staggered in around the time I was getting up.
He looked a bit sheepish and said he was off to bed.
I took one look at the gash on his chin and said, no son, you’re coming to A&E with me to have that stitched.
Now our local hospital doesn’t have an A&E department, they have a ‘minor injuries’ unit.
Rang the buzzer and explained what was what to the nurse, she promptly told me to ring NHS 24.
I rang NHS 24 and the operator said to stay on the line and they’d ring the minor injuries unit.
She came back to me saying there was no answer.
I told her, I know why there’s no answer and she asked how I knew that.
I said it’s because I can see the very helpful caring health professional sitting in the patient waiting area watching breakfast TV.
So, my lad had to be driven 15 miles to the nearest A&E, to be told the scar would be more noticeable as it had been left gaping so long.
I don’t believe you.
If anything they’ve been influenced by selfish old cunts 