You forget me saying I’d vote for Labour’s second in command. Conveniently. Doesn’t fit with the narrative of attacking the forum’s right wing gobshite.
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Oooh we haven’t issued a Lovren on this thread in some time.
I salute you sir
I think it’s worth remembering Blair came to power promising to save the NHS (it was the key) “24 hours to save the NHS”
The NHS struggling is perfect for Labour. It’s an easy win at election time. Means Brexit is not top of the agenda.
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How much of that was down to Labour expanding the PFI started by the Tories?
Difficult to answer. Its debatable if PFI had a positive outcome overall or not. (Labour commentators themselves are split on this)
The primary difference in my opinion was money invested. During the Blair years there were 20,000 more doctors and 70,000 more nurses than what he inherited.
There were also pretty draconian targets set (must have an operation within x months, x% of people must be seen within 4 hours)
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I do have faint memories of targets and how they changed etc. It didn’t sit comfortably with me for some reason. I know that there needs to be value and drive but I’m uncomfortable in putting timelines on certain health things. Times to get to see a specialist etc. - crack on but targets for certain treatments that might not be in the best interest of the patient? No.
Am I right that they also looked at similar with schools? Or was that Gove?
Targets have their uses but I know some medical staff that have criticised the ones used as they aren’t based on medical priority. E.g. waiting time in A&E as a general target rather than time to triage which is critical.
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Yeah,I can believe it. I’ve spent a lot of time, and effort and still do on scheduling work to times and dates. In manufacturing or in my case building something on site, creating a schedule and resourcing it is relatively easy. Xno. chippies for 2 weeks, concrete on this date etc. Doing the same for the design process however is an absolute nightmare. It just doesn’t translate well to producing Xno. Sausages per hour which is essentially what some of these targets push towards.
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Of course, and especially certain newspaper owners, ie. Murdoch. This guy and his family are a big big part of the problem in your country imo.
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Agreed , except it’s worth mentioning that as far as I know only Tony Blair is the only ex pm that is currently a Godfather to one of Murdoch’s grandchildren
I did not know that.
Then the relationship between politicians and the media stinks. Boris for example seems to have a fan club in the Daily Express and was obviously in favour with the Telegraph until he was a busted flush. Seems to be the way. Just not right.
Hmmm, Corbyn still pulling the strings there?
Disgusting.
Also entirely unsurprising.
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Keir doing very well with Laura imo.
He’s too smart for your blunt tools, love.
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More likely entirely Starmer. He is the civil rights lawyer. Has it been reported what he actually said? I can’t see this mentioned anywhere other than the Telegraph.
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Agreed. Came across very well; the comparison with Fishy Rishi last week couldn’t be more stark.
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Yep, good performance. On the trans questions I was half expecting him to say, “Good. Next?” I do think he’s starting to take the hand-brake off. Not as stuffy and uptight as he used to be. Almost human. Loved the part about him being given advice on what he should be doing.
However the line “There’s nothing worse than being in opposition” should come back to haunt him. Tell that to a cancer patient. That’s the kind of throw-away line that killed Ratner.
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Corbyn would never say what Starmer said
Also, how will this work?