By the way, the use of draconian measures to deal with crime, as you advocate, is hardly a new idea. In fact, it has been the norm throughout history and is still commonplace today.
If you wish to live in a society where criminals are dealt with in harsh and brutal ways, there are a number of options for you to consider; Iran, Saudi Arabia and North Korea spring to mind.
They might spring to your mind, Iād like a little more stick and far less carrot here.
Toru Ueda from Tokyo no longer feels human - with a desire to discard human relationships.
I wonder what kind of jail they will throw him in if he ever commits a crimeā¦!!
There is a huge difference between that and dismemberment.
Calling for amputation and stoning puts you on a par with the more vehement Mullahs.
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Heāll certainly be in the doghouse.
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Iāll be here all week.
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So does breathing and eating crisps. Your point?
So a judge has no responsibilities when sentencing someone to prison?
Think about what youāre saying for just a small moment
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The point is for all your calls for brutal revenge based criminal justice, state executions and bolt guns, we know what countries with those kind of justice systems stem look like, and you wouldnāt want to live there.
At some point in your life you could be accused of rape. You could be totally innocent, and find yourself standing in front of a court trying desperately to prove your innocence. On that day, you will be very, very, very grateful that wet liberals like me have stopped us bolt gunning rapists.
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You rape somebody, you lose the right to have anybody consider you with compassion.
Bolt gun or 30 years being brutally gang raped. Iāll take the wall and cigarette option please.
Have you ever considered moving to Afghanistan?
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What about other people you may encounter while in prison? Guards, other inmates, other staff etc? I suppose we should ignore them just becauseā¦
Itās not about compassion, itās about understanding and mitigating risks.
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This goes to the heart of what we believe the purpose of criminal justice is.
I believe that the states role is to a) keep the public safe b) rehabilitate offenders. You believe the state should use criminal justice as a) a deterrent b) a punishment.
In my worldview the stateās duty to extend compassion to itās citizens does not end when they have committed a crime. I agree with the old maxim that the true mark of civility is how the state treats it most wretched and deplorable. If you can extend compassion to those people whom all your base instincts are saying donāt deserve it, then you are truly civilised.
As far as your view goes, the main problem with it is that it basically doesnāt work. Harsh sentencing only leads to further reoffending and career criminality. It isnāt called the University of Crime for nothing.
So wherever you are between liberalism and authoritarianism, I think you have a duty towards pragmatism. If something isnāt working and itās by every measure making it worse, stop doing it.
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Absofuckinglutely, Stick not carrot.
And it doesnāt work.
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Sadly Australia is now inhabited so we donāt have somewhere to ship scumbags to. You want to re-educate and treat, hand me the flamethrower. The difference is that my solution works. This is a double rape BTW.
Iāll just throw you some Terry. Mr Trooper is the hangman. Moist is the hero:
Do you really think all this deters crime, Mr. Trooper?" he said.
āWell, in the generality of things Iād say itās hard to tell, given that itās hard to find evidence of crimes not committed,ā said the hangman, giving the trapdoor a final rattle. āBut in the specificality, sir, Iād say itās very efficacious.ā
āMeaning what?ā said Moist.
āMeaning Iāve never seen someone up here moreān once, sir. Shall we go?ā
So why not put all the shit house murdering raping scum in a big prison and leave them to it? Why should you or I pay Ā£40k per year to accommodate them? Ah, their human rights.
They lost them when the acted below the base of humanity.
Letās assume that someone makes false rape allegations against you. The evidence is all circumstantial and, for whatever reason, the jury believe your accuser and not you.
Happy to have your arsehole ripped open on a daily basis? I mean most of those convicted will be wrong 'uns so itās only fair that you take one, well probably more than one, for the team.
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Would you recommend the fish or the veal?