But why should that even be the case ? The UK should be dealing with them in the UK. France doesn’t ask Germany or Italy or Spain to process its asylum claimants that cross their borders in their countries. Whatever happened to taking back control ?
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USA has never been like that.
Give me your whom exactly?
Is there not a UK border control centre in France, employing UK border control officers?
Should we close it down?
Well maybe you should , considering that you think this is all France’s fault.
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I didn’t say it was Frances fault.
I said he has more reason to complain about France than the migrants.
But I’m assuming France let them into southern France, and make their way to northern France, now want rid of them.
Yeah , that’s quite an assumption.
Right, so they just bypassed the whole country and arrived in the north?
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France has borders with six countries other than Spain. They’re just being ‘let in’ at these borders aswell are they ?
You’ve just been on Google earth haven’t you?
Nah , I live here.
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Ok, fair enough.
Explain the process to me then please.
Family turns up at the Spanish/French border and says they want to claim asylum.
France officials process them, and in order for them to be allowed access to the country, they have to be granted asylum.
Is this correct?
Well in your hypothetical scenario , and I presume you’re talking about migrants coming from North Africa , then once in Spain , and assuming their final destination is the UK , then they wouldn’t have to worry about crossing the border into France as both are Schengen countries.
If France is indeed their final destination , then they would apply for asylum once on French soil , assuming they were genuine cases , and wait for their cases to be processed. Otherwise , for those who aren’t genuine cases , they would most likely just ‘disappear’ into one of the French cities and take their chances.
What you should bear in mind is that as well as it being virtually impossible now to get into the UK legally to present for asylum , it is also much easier for economic migrants (and criminals) to ‘disappear’ in the UK , by virtue of a thriving employment black market and the fact that in the UK you don’t need an ID Card. (If the UK is really serious about addressing illegal immigration then maybe this is where it should be expending its energy.)
Along with the fact that so many already have relatives / contacts in the UK , it’s really no surprise the country remains the No.1 destination of choice.
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Fair question. Yes there are but they generally hail from next door rather than Syria, Iran etc.
And they are a menace
Sadly there’s nothing under UK or international law that can prevent them buying second homes or holiday let’s.
Seriously the hotel at Surf Snowdonia was taken up by refugees for a while. Not too far from me. Certainly not popular with the locals and I think there was a bit of trouble. I can’t 100% say how I’d feel other than being pissed that the government aren’t processing applications. That is a part of every solution to this and they refuse to tackle it.
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We can’t have ID card, discriminates against the poor. I’ve had this explained to me many times on here.
Proving that even someone with the intellectual level of a goldfish can currently be an MP.
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He knows all the words to the Welsh Anthem…
It’s almost as if one can hold differing views on differing topics. There are many anti-immigration socialists.
My theory has always been that “the north” while more inclined to hold values of economic solidarity and redistribution to level out differences between the rich and the poor, also hold very staunchly socially conservative views.
The Johnson government’s lip service to levelling up therefore actually perfectly represents them, in addition to its xenophobic views. Democracy in action, even though I disagree with the honesty of the “red wall” Conservative MPs.
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I have seen analysis of political beliefs that separate economic and social values onto separate axes. The whole idea that people exist on a purely left-right continuum isn’t particularly helpful.
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