UK Politics Thread (Part 3)

FIFY

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Don’t you just love international breaks?

Roll on Saturday, so that we can start hurling abuse at Everton instead of at each other.

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It’s like me without a cigarette, absolutely nuts, wonderful! :crazy_face:

No, I just get seriously worst if I think I’m running out of tabacco or, papers, I don’t care about filters just prefer with!

misrepresent to confirm a pre-existing opinion

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Being a numberphile 0.058% equates to 1 in 1724. Happy for anyone to check that.

Regarding vaccines then each to their own but I do take issue with the lack of testing and moreover the lack of government support on that front.

If you get it, vaccinated or otherwise some isolation is still the best course of action imo, but you need the testing to confirm if your sniffle is COVID or otherwise.

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I am not even bothered that @Semmy didn’t want another jab. That is his choice and his choice alone.

But I honestly didn’t expect people were still believing COVID conspiracies like that any more? I was thankful we were past that shit now. Clearly not.

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The thing about vaccines is that many work best when >95% of the popn have them especially as those unfortunates who cannot have a specific vaccine (infants, aged, allergic etc) are then significantly protected by the general popn being protected. Making everything into a personal choice where conspiracy theory cretins and wooh-wooh libertarians decide that they (and their kids) shouldn’t receive vaccines is just terrible public policy.

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Having the Covid vaccine doesn’t stop you catching it.
It just (in theory) reduces the severity by which it will affect your health.

Nowt to do with conspiracies, just a fact.

It’s only behaviours which stop people spreading it if they have it.

Reduces the time you’re infectious I believe. Happy to be corrected on that.

So that reduces the risk of transmission.

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But like lockdown, unless we all do it, it’s useless.

much appreciated

Exactly.
People, generically are selfish.
But it’s easier to blame the spread on conspiracy theorists who don’t get vaccinated.

You’re right: a lot of people are selfish.

So it makes sense to blame the most selfish people: conspiracy theorists who don’t get vaccinated

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I’d put blame on a lot of people before those who don’t get vaccinated.
Starting with the serial protesters who were out in their thousands while non vaccinated sensible people were locked down at home.
Not everyone who doesn’t get vaccinated holds conspiracy theories.

I suppose you’ll now conter with - All the non vaccinated were at the protests :roll_eyes:

there are also some who got vaccinated early, even had their young kids vaccinated because it was mandated. But then as the next two years unfold and they see the doublespeak by the politicians and the massive amounts of overspending and missing money…

https://x.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1650927141507178516?s=20

10.17 We found that the department and agency’s approach to limit
pre-payment controls, as well as the lack of timely data at the time of
application, resulted in a significant amount of payments made to recipients
who were ineligible or whose eligibility needs to be verified. We found
$4.6 billion of overpayments made to ineligible recipients of benefits for
individuals. In addition, we estimated that at least $27.4 billion of payments
to individuals and employers should be investigated further. A more
definitive estimate of payments made to ineligible recipients and amounts
to be recovered by the government will be determined only after the agency
and the department have completed their post-payment verifications.
10.18 The department and agency did not develop rigorous and
comprehensive plans to verify the eligibility of recipients. We found that their
post-payment verification plans did not include verifying payments made
to all identified recipients at risk of being ineligible for all COVID‑19 benefit
programs. Given the limited pre-payment controls and the early decision
to focus on post-payment verifications, we expected the department and
the agency to perform extensive post-payment verifications to identify
payments made to ineligible recipients.

https://www.thestar.com/business/rogers-bell-and-telus-collected-more-than-240-million-from-canada-s-wage-subsidy-program/article_b94b1586-af6b-5129-92c3-bc4136497734.html

Surely Rishi or Starmer, or someone else in the UK, is doing something not covid related that can be commented on!

My tuppence on the big 'Rona:

I’ve had my jabs. Three along the way I think. There is a fourth, and I will go when I get around to it. I will probably get a seasonal flu jab too while I’m at it. Seems sensible.

We want covid to be behind us, but it isn’t. It is still dangerous, but not nearly as dangerous as it once was.

And people are fatigued by the whole issue. Understandable.

So most are just getting on with it. Not especially fearful of covid any more, and only partially going out of their way to stop the spread, which is unfortunate for people who are compromised.

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I’ve got had my flu jab and have my Covid one tomorrow.

As far as Sunak and Starmer are concerned: they’re both wankers. It’s just one is slightly less wanker-ish than the other.

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I found it interesting that Sunak is running England.

Wes Streeting, the shadow health secretary, said the accounts showed that “the Conservatives can never again claim to be the careful stewards of the public finances”.

He added: “While Rishi Sunak had control of the purse strings, a staggering £15bn of public money was wasted on useless PPE – enough to fund the police force for an entire year. Instead, that money is now literally going up in smoke. Taxpayers will rightly judge the carelessness with which the Conservatives treat their money to be an absolute scandal.”

DHSC estimates that the value of PPE and other items bought in response to the pandemic has fallen by ÂŁ6bn, and that it has spent ÂŁ319m on storage and disposal.

and they call it covid conspiracies…Where’s the Covid money gone, Rishi? Who got paid?

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The worst thing is that you still get Tories banging on about the “mess we inherited from Labour”.

Tossers.

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