UK Politics Thread (Part 3)

Ageist murder

I actually listened to some of his testimony (is that the right word here?) last night. There’s a video available on YouTube if you’re feeling suicidal.

No bombshells as far as Boris was concerned. Everyone knows he’s useless. It seems Hancock was a constant liar but Cummings wreaks of being a nasty, arrogant, out of control management consultant hell bent on up rooting the whole system and installing his own methods. Again we knew that already but it was a horrendous reminder.

I do wonder if and when something more falls out where people really take note of the negligence that was evident and start calling for further action.

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He is a massive bellend, and deeply thick. I struggle to think of a man with a greater disparity between his ability and his own perception of his ability.

His arguments are riddled with contradictions and it’s baffling that he lacks the self awareness to understand how stupid he is making himself look everytime he opens his mouth.

He laments Ministers being crap and not up to the job. So maybe it wasn’t such a good idea to hound any half competent Tory out of the Party because of their lack of Brexit purity, then Dom? That manoeuvre left you a bit short of talent, didn’t it?

Boris Johnson the wrong Prime Minister at the wrong time? What? The useful idiot you used to get Brexit over the line and then installed in number ten to push your hard leave ideology? Who could have foreseen that the Prime Minister of the country might, at some point, have to deal with something serious? Not Cummings, apparently.

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The self styled ‘disruptor’ who claims his skill is to ‘break things’.

Well, the country is pretty fucking broken now Dom. Congrats. Mission accomplished.

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That’s a particular baffling one.

Did nobody point out to Boris that the old people who he was happy to let die are pretty much the Tory Party’s core vote?

It’s like the Green Party announcing a policy of legalised hunting of Students. Or UKIP proposing the death penalty for racism.

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Maybe he just wanted the labour ones dead.
Probably a 50/50 split anyway

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What about the self styled ‘world king’?

Poor fella, must have been expecting a 5☆ hotel.

Didn’t read the article, did you?

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what does that have to do with the UK?

As a matter of fact I did. My view would have been the same if I hadn’t.

The food and accommodation might be better in war-torn France where I’d imagine most of them have passed through?

As for the 6 who ‘planned to take their own lives’ on the A12 flyover…well, I find it rather strange they all managed to hang around long enough to be talked out of it.

The whole article reeks of people playing the system.

‘Survival of the shittest.’ :rofl:

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That’s a fucking rough take on the situation, mate.

By the way, the idea that Asylum Seekers have to seek refuge in the first safe country is a total myth. As is the idea that anyone claiming asylum is ‘illegal’.

The Conservatives are the ones playing the system here. They are not processing claims and deporting failed applications, which is how a sensible system should work. They are cramming people in hotels and boats and huge expense, claiming to be overrun, stoking public fear and claiming to be only party that can solve the problem they have created.

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Was waiting on Marina Hyde’s response. She’s brilliant. John Crace was pretty good today as well.

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100%. The 1951 Refugee Convention clearly states that refugees do not need to seek asylum in the first safe country they reach. It also sets out the process that should be followed to process asylum claims. Worth looking it up and it doesn’t take long to take the key points from it.

What is clear from looking at the various points in the convention is that the UK is not processing asylum applications. If it was, and so called asylum seekers were found to be economic migrants or criminals they can be sent back, deported etc. It is literally that simple. Process the application ASAP, act on the decision. Job done, next!

The whole thing is a simple cover up for simply not processing applications.

Oh and by the way if you actually process applications quickly, efficiently and weed out the non refugees and then act quickly on that, you would find that you quickly gain a reputation for not being a soft touch while also demonstrating compassion to those that need it. Creating delay in the system plays into the hands of those that seek to play the system. I’m really chuffed that some of my tax has probably gone towards setting up and financing a deal with Rwanda (sarcasm)

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That’s because they rarely are, so doesn’t serve the purposes of the anti-immigrant crowd.

That requires thinking, and an honest intention to fix the issues.

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Let me abandon you in a country where you have no ties, no ability to speak the language, and see how you fare there?

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I know one thing, if I’d fled my country of birth because I was being persecuted I’d be quite happy to settle in the first safe country I arrived in.
I’m fucked if I’d pay a shower of criminals thousands of pounds to put my life at risk in an overcrowded dinghy and cross a busy shipping lane in the middle of the night.
It’s enough to make you think they have ulterior motives for coming here.

Like having family already here and/or speaking the language.

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