It’s simple if you take extreme examples.
Talent (and hard work) are equally distributed but opportunity is not
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WeeJoe Allen, stop complaining, no one cares. Work harder!
I get paid very well, but work less hard than I did as a primary school teacher 20 year’s ago
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We all knew what would happen with a Labour government. Always does. Leopard and spots.
What annoys me is 2 things. Those with the broadest shoulders…… it’s percentages. Those who earn more will therefore pay more.
Working people. I have worked fecking hard all my life to have what I have. I was given nothing, went to a rubbish Yorkshire comprehensive. Now I would be considered relatively wealthy. I have always paid all my taxes. So I am in their sights. Why? To help those who do not work or have not tried?
It frustrating.
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All the bullshit stereotyping when by far the vast majority who receive government assistance are simply trying to get by, often working their arses off but being underpaid.
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Many I am sure. Many not.
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Ah, so somebody thinks you’re smart. Good. You’d get paid a LOT more if you worked harder then.
Boom.
That is not what I said. That’s the issue with UK politics. It’s tribal. Black and white. Life is not.
We need to fundamentally change the NHS and how it’s funded. But it’s too politically difficult.
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I said I have worked hard. Now I am penalised.
Yeah. it’s always the underpaid, the downtrodden, the oppressed etc. Benefits and working hard? Working wrong more like or possibly living a lifestyle beyond physical and mental ability.
Well you will never agree with me or even listen. That’s ok.
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And for the record. Modern business is all about money. Whatever bs is said about purpose etc. I think it’s broken. It’s only about shareholders.
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Your hypothesis (because thats all it is) only works if all jobs are equal. They are not. A school teacher will never earn the salary of a banker / hedge fund manager no matter how hard they work. A brain surgeon (your example) may have done a heap of studying, carries huge responsibility and so on but is still out stripped by many professional sports people.
Plus the work hard thing may help you get on working within a firm but promotion is often linked to softer skills or simply how your face fits.
Someone has just left my place of work to join another firm. He has stepped down in responsibility and designation but his salary has increased considerably.
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Oh I agree. My sister is a doctor. So is my nephew. Criminal what they have to do to qualify and then the outcome versus hedge fund etc. That’s my point. Modern business is wrong. Gives nothing back. I know I was part of it.
But you have to admit for every underpaid nurse there are many who game the system. Not all. I will happily pay tax for a nurse.
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And maybe this is an argument I should not enter. 30 days no alcohol and we need a DM!
And the video is the ultimate stereotype. That’s my point. Money versus working class is a 50s argument. It’s not relevant for the nuance and complexity of today.
So you think the number of people gaming the system outnumbers the people working hard?
Are you liquifying the Daily Telegraph and injecting it directly into your bloodstream?
The welfare budget is huge, but the vast majority of that is on state pensions. Funny how those lovely right wing boomers never think of themselves as recipients of welfare.
What’s left gets divided up between disability benefits, family benefits and unemployment benefits. The money from the welfare budget that goes towards the unemployed is a very small percentage, and the amount claimed fraudulently is a small percentage of that.
Benefit fraud is not a big deal. It’s so small that successive governments, blue and red, have realised that to attack it would cost the taxpayer much more than the amount that would be recovered.
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Yeah ok. I do not read the Telegraph. But you stereotype me. Your bad.