I do not care. Left or right. I believe in free market economics until they are self serving pricks. Which they are. A new model needs to emerge. Not left. Starmer will ruin us. Not the current tories.
The last person who had a view was thatcher. Oh she fecked society but did the best for UK plc.
No one else has had a vision. Maybe Blair but look at his financial legacy.
And they all make money. Blair, truss, brownâŚâŚ
Tax is at 45% on earnings above 125k.
What is the proposal to help fix the current mess? I just heard âa bit moreâ posted a few times. Iâm not sure what that means.
50% on earnings above 125k? Thatâs a bit more. 5% more to be exact.
Or are we talking about a lot more? I genuinely donât know if the new rate has been communicated.
Income tax is unlikely to be increased.
Inheritance tax and CGT are likely to bear the brunt of the increases.
Rightly so.
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Thanks for the info. I definitely agree with inheritance tax bearing the brunt of it, and I probably agree with CGT too, but would like to see more detail on that.
Apologies for the inconvenience. But Iâm going to close the thread - just for an hour or two. Call it a well-being break.
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I can see both sides to coin, I am lucky to earn decent wage. Before I left the UK I worked fucking hard. In essence I would count the days to the next holiday (as soon as I had arrived back home from being abroad)
It took me being taken to hospital in an ambulance with suspected heart attack in my 30s to realise I was dumb. I had bought into a concept that working hard = money = happiness. It wasnât it was killing me.
Took a big pay cut, moved to NZ and have a much nicer life. Much happier.
I see parallels here at a national level. I can see why people are reluctant to give up money. They have worked hard (to point nearly killing them), and that is what we have been told to believe you deserve and that what will make you happy. Why should I give up my money/happiness ? The societal contract has been broken. Years of corruption means in the UK you often get shit healthcare, schools and other public services.
However, it is shortsighted similar to how I was.
As a society it is better if wealth is more evenly distributed. You have less crime, litter, you have a happier environment, things work as they should. You donât need to worry about nutters as they are being cared for. You can live in a mansion, but if the environment around you is a shit, youâre just top of the shit pile.
Itâs not about broad shoulders, taking the strain. More that it is better investment for yourself investing around you. First and foremost the UK needs to close tax loopholes from exploitative businesses. Break up monopolies who only care about their own gain. Enough money flows through the UK for it to be rich. Thatâs the easy part. The next is re-educating the public on the importance of society and the direct benefits to everyone. The opposite of thatchers I am all right Jack which persists.
There is no reason the UK canât have a good NHS, good schools, clean streets, low crime. Itâs not a lot to ask to not have a shit floating past you when you go to the beach. It should not be cheaper to fly to Greece than catch a train to London. The country is broken and has been gas lit to accept it as normal or something that is unsustainable.
Itâs as much of a mind set shift that needs to occur as a money shift.
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Outstanding post⌠which has to be a first from a mod. 
In particular, this part:
Unfortunately, too many people donât realise that money does not equal happiness.
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I think before people get too excited over this they should wait and see what tax rises/ spending rises/cuts are actually being proposed by the government - and what the spending gaps they are trying to fill are, and not simply go by what the papers are currently reporting or jump to conclusions.
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Evidence? Genuinely interested.
The evidence against the current tories is pretty substantial given they wrecked the country in 14 years. And I do mean wrecked every service, the environment, industry, welfare, education, health, and so on and on and on. And they divided the UK population as well.
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But then youâre expecting people not to be fuckwits. 
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YayâŚ
Starmer removes âunsettlingâ portrait of Margaret Thatcher from No 10
Story by Amy Gibbons
Sir Keir Starmer has had a portrait of Margaret Thatcher removed from No 10 Downing Street weeks after moving in.
The Prime Minister found the artwork âunsettlingâ and asked for it to be taken down, according to his biographer.
The portrait of Baroness Thatcher was commissioned by Gordon Brown and unveiled to the Iron Lady at a private reception in 2009. Painted by Richard Stone, one of Britainâs leading portrait artists, it was intended for permanent display in Downing Street.
The decision to take down the painting, first reported by The Herald, was revealed by Tom Baldwin, Sir Keirâs biographer, at an event organised by Glasgowâs Aye Write book festival.
The former journalist reportedly said the Prime Minister delivered the news while the pair viewed the painting hanging in the former No 10 study, unofficially known as the Thatcher Room.
Sir Keir had taken Mr Baldwin up to the room, describing it as a âplace where we can go and have a quiet talkâ. The biographer said: âWe sat there, and I go: âItâs a bit unsettling with her staring down as you like that, isnât it?ââ According to Mr Baldwin, Sir Keir replied: âYeah.â
Asked whether he would âget rid of itâ, the Prime Minister allegedly nodded. Mr Baldwin said: âAnd he has.â
The decision has sparked a backlash from Conservatives, with Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg describing it as âpetty-mindedâ. He said it was âunbecoming of a Prime Minister who has a role representing the nation, not just his political factionâ.
Greg Smith, a Tory MP, condemned what he described as âutter pettiness from Starmerâ, claiming the move showed he had âno respect for our history and previous prime ministersâ.
Murdo Fraser, a Scottish Tory leadership candidate, said: âIt seems like a churlish move, but perhaps Sir Keir Starmer was intimidated by the gaze of a world-renowned leader whose achievements he will never come close to matching.â
Meghan Gallacher, who is also running to be leader of the Scottish Tories, said: âItâs disgraceful that Keir Starmer would remove a picture of Britainâs first female Prime Minister. Regardless of your opinions on Margaret Thatcher, she paved the way for women in politics and tackled sexist stereotypes head on.
âSheâs an inspiration for many, a defining figure in British politics, and she deserves to be recognised for her many achievements. Her legacy should be honoured, the portrait should be returned.â
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Weâll see.
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Removed it? Iâd have had it fucking burned.
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@klopptimist in a comedy skit
If only he were funny.
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