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Absolutely. Or we could give them loads of money and a free house and send them both to sessions aimed at improving their behaviour.
Fuck that. beat them both.
Iām a bit late butā¦
If you think youāre rich but still rely on earning a salary, then you havenāt been paying attention.
The wealth gap has reached unsustainable levels, monopolies have been allowed to thrive, the money is in the hands of a very few people.
Tax land. Churchill had the right idea on that at least. We probably have to tax shares as well now.
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Interesting. I need to get my head around this a bit.
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Carelful what you wish for.
Fucking rats think weāre all stupid enough not to see right through them for what they really are.
What are you complaining about now?
Making sure the economy doesnāt crash? 
Supporting Ukraine?
Leading on fighting climate change?
None of these are bad things.
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Not defending the decision, just noting that pensioners that dont receive any benefits will no longer receive the Winter fuel payment.
Not sure why they chose to go after that specifically, it feels clumsy and this with some other things has certainly given the RW press plenty to go at, and they have, big time.
@Dane just curious. How would you plug the Ā£22bn hole left by the previous government?
Personally, the row surrounding who knew and who didnt about the hole in the finances an interesting thread to pull
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*If the WFP really did initially make no bones about a pensionerās income and wealth, then these means-tested measures are a no-brainer. Keeping them in place is nothing short of ageist. Sunak was looking to do something similar (the same?) as Starmer but backed out, likely knowing pensioners were his only remaining voting base leading into the election.
But from what Iāve read on the gov.uk website you already need to be on a low income to get it? You need to be getting one of the income supports, so I donāt see what the major change is, nor how they are going to save much on itā¦
I thought it was given to all pensioners born before 1958?
Screenshot from Channel 4 news article on it.
I heard an argument that it would would encourage those that donāt claim the pension credit, but that should do, to claim. I can see the logic in it, but it probably doesnāt address why those people donāt claim it in the first place.
I would have thought that a smarter way of doing this would be to add the winter payment to the state pension so that it becomes taxable.
Itās the first round of the Conservative leadership election this afternoon.
Tory MPs will vote at 15:00, with the result expected shortly afterwards.
Badenoch, Cleverly, Jenrick, Patel, Stride and Tugendhat are the six candidates; one of them will be eliminated this afternoon and the second round of voting will take place next week.
The last pair standing will be presented to the party membership and the final result is expected on 2nd November.
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Heād stop sending money to Bongo Bongo land
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Honestly I dont know. It feels a bit like going after something easy i.e. something can guarantee no matter the reputational cost rather than some other big headline type issue that might have mixed results.
They literally have nothing left, do they?
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All governments will do the unpopular stuff in the first term.
Weāll have to wait until the budget to see what they have. It wouldnāt surprise me if they are putting serious money into a home energy efficiency package. That has a huge positive effect in terms of cost savings, economic boost and environmental impact and it is probably something that they could justify having on the investment side rather than current spending.
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Thatās what happens when you get reduced to so few MPs, the choices arenāt great. Iād imagine someone like Tugendhat wonāt last very long, given that the election effectively got rid of so many of the more traditional Conservatives rather than the loonies.
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Replying here because it feels more relevant here. I think this is interesting in the light of the above discussion, because it seems as though the warnings from the more moderate Conservatives are correct. That the Conservative Party voting base doesnāt actually lean that far right, so any leadership candidates trying to do so are merely trying to become leaders of the Reform platform rather than the Conservative platform.
I wonder if it will also result in the eventual extinction of the Conservative Party at this rate.
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20% of Labour voters would vote for Trumpā¦
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And 16% of the Lib Dems would!
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