UK Politics Thread (Part 3)

I honestly wonder quite often what the proportion of voters who are “football team” voters are. As in, my father voted Labour, his father voted Labour, etc., or “we are a Conservative family”, as opposed to actually examining each party’s platforms and their values. It strikes me whenever I see a lot of people being interviewed, that their personal values have often never been represented by the party they seem to only ever vote for, and their votes are always a binary of voting for that party or not voting at all.

This strikes me as a phenomenon that naturally results from that.

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Well, I suspect that is what the residual conservative vote is. I mean it is hardly the party of Disraeli or Churchill now.

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An actual shit show. I could equally put this in the climate thread. This is a screenshot i took Monday morning of the Surfers Against Sewage app I now use to track shit, literally.

For the record Wales has far less discharges than the south coast and south west.

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I’ve voiced my disgust on this issue in the past.

Fucking cunts.

They should be in prison.

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I’ve had enough of this shit.

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Infuriating!

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But but but what about what about…….

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Set up in Wales is different. Welsh Water is a non profit organisation. Still not performing well though. Other than looking to streamline costs and perhaps charging for water sent to England its higher bills and a heap of work bringing up the condition and/ or redesigned of assets.

I should add that i suspect that discharges are possibly above the allowed amount. If they are then, yes, jail.

Prosecutions now I wonder?

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Most of the key points of the report basically say that those in positions of responsibility couldn’t give a shit. The criticism of the fire brigade seems to be that they relied on everyone else having done their job. I’m not sure what they are meant to do about that. Most of the fire safety rules are in place as a result of previous disasters but they seem to expect the fire brigade to respond as if they never happened.

Are they now meant to assume that all fires would be the same as the Manchester Woolworths disaster?

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State pension is a benefit klaxon

Which one is more serious, the (X) or the (!)?

Either way, that is pretty terrible. These days we can swim in the Ottawa River, except right after large rainfall (raises bacterial count from runoff)

Noted. I meant pension credit etc.

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I think this is important. It would be odd for them to target cuts on pensioners first without some sort of plan because it is obvious there would be significant blowback from doing so.

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I’d also wager that what’s admitted to be spilt is probably half what actually is. No way a huge sewage plant would have some curious pipework, nah, no way whatsoever.

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The BBC has reported that they’ll kick off in 2026.

I would be gobsmacked if some stakeholders aren’t strung up, but whether it is meaningful or performative…who knows…

It’s an old trick. Put something horrendous out there. Everyone goes hysterical for a few weeks. Then announce something that is bad, but not so bad, and everyone thinks they got let off lightly.

I’m trying to remember what the compromise was about removing free TV licences from pensioners.

I think this has been known for some time. Their party membership is generally much further to the right than the rest of their voting base.

Further evidence in support of the thesis is always welcome I guess…

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X = sewage incident
! = pollution incident

Take your pick.

Weather was properly nasty on Monday morning. A proper deluge that had all the road gullies struggling. So they will argue that there’s some mitigating circumstances but the frequency (and growing is a concern)
Snap shot of history at my favoured kitesurf beach does not make good reading. The history shows how bad Monday was.