UK Politics Thread (Part 3)

The cladding company should have their trading license revoked. They knew their products was dangerous, sold it anyway and lied about it consistently. And then hired PR people to back themselves after the fire.

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What is a pollution incident, in contrast to a sewage overflow?

When I lived in Cornwall for a while, one good piece of advice I have remembered… Do not frequent a beach, or enter the water, unless it is popular with the local community…! Just because you can’t see the sewage, or harmful bacteria in the water, no matter how clean the waters look, doesn’t mean it is not there.

It is a serious problem, that needs serious legislation thrown at the culprits, that knowingly cause the issue.

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Definitions taken from: The Safer Seas & Rivers Service - Surfers Against Sewage

Judging from these definitions, it seems that they’re not orthogonal definitions, i.e. it’s possible to have a sewage outflow but because of positive weather situations, no pollution risk forecast, but also if there’s a freak incident that results in pollution retained in a particular spot, perhaps from farm runoff or something similar, it can activate without a sewage outflow.

Of course there can always be both as well.

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Do you mean the company that fitted it or the manufacturers? Kingspan and Celotex are widely used in the building industry. I’ve used the stuff myself. I wasn’t actually aware that they made a non-flame resistant variety. It was often used to supplement rockwool and fibreglass which are pretty much incombustible and would actually stop a fire spreading.

I have a friend who works as a quantity surveyor. He says that the reason that most new houses in the UK are built like crap is that they will use the cheapest materials possible. I just wonder how many building firms will have used the flammable cladding materials because it saves them a few pennies on a build.

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I couldnt say,

I suspect there are alert trigger levels. What happens before that trigger level is anyone’s guess

The Scargillites be like, fuck em, they’ve lived long enough and they’ll only keep turn the heating up

Ten points for guessing/remembering which of the main political parties had a leader that openly advocated letting pensioners die in the last few years.

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But but but what about what about…….
:roll_eyes:

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IF I was PM?
Close the tax loopholes that the super rich and massive corporations exploit?

Remove “Toryesque” politician expense claims.
Drop in the ocean, but a statement to prove they’re the peoples party.

Look closer to home and stop fleecing my own country with second home fuel allowances?
Stop giving ourselves meal allowances that could cover a family of 4?

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All good. They are going after non dom status for starters.

Cant disagree with the others either. I’d go further and stop MP second incomes.

I dont think that fills the hole though.

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At the risk of being labeled “far right” ( I use Twitter so must be, right?)
Perhaps review the amounts sent in foreign aid.
We have people of all ages struggling financially, yet send tens of billions overseas.

Send notification to everyone who qualifies for pension credit but doesn’t claim it (most likely through ignorance of it).

We have the same discussion here, with our far right party trying everything they can to have that aide diminished. The argument which often comes up in favour of maintaining that aide, is that any targeted assistance in a foreign country will help people to make a living in their own country, and will prevent them from trying to come to Europe. In the end, it will be cheaper that way, rather than being forced to help these same people when they are at your doorstep.

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Bufoon :rofl:

https://x.com/ArchRose90/status/1831298900902215824?t=WLn2rvO-lN_FSPLSmoT8ig&s=03

Arconic , the company which made the cladding panels on the tower’s exterior, is found to have “deliberately concealed” the safety risk.

Their response: " * Arconic, which supplied the cladding, says it will continue to engage with further legal processes but rejects “any claim” that its subsidiary Arconic Architectural Products (AAP) “sold an unsafe product”. A statement continued: “AAP did not conceal information from or mislead any certification body, customer or the public""

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Priti “Vacant” Patel is the first one eliminated.

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Jesus wept. Are we now playing fast and loose with the very definition of “unsafe product”?

Is it like the US FDA regulation that says if a food product contains fat content below a certain percentage point then you can legally call the product “fat-free”?

I think the key issue, or way it works is whether they claimed a higher fire resistance than it was and then pushed that narrative.

There are design codes that define categories for fire resistance (time based) and products are tested and certificated against those standards.

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No future for her :wink:

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Well, she did act like the Antichrist towards civil servants

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