UK Politics Thread (Part 3)

One thing that struck me in that letter was the accusation of nepotism. As far as I’m aware, of all the accusations levelled at him, this is a new one?

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Frocks and skirts?

That’s some serious flame.

Was about to post something similar to this. Nail on the head.

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Crossing the floor or resigning/losing the whip should trigger an automatic by-election. Regardless of the party benefitting.

The idea that people vote for you as a person, and the party affiliation is temporary, is frankly bollocks. It’s tantamount to electoral fraud. The idea that you vote for a MP and then, within months, you are represented by someone taking the whip from a different party, or no-one at all is a disgrace.

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I agree about voluntarily leaving the party but not for losing the whip which could be temporary and in any case it would deter anyone voting against their own party which isn’t great…we need all MPs to have the ability to challenge the government…

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Good news: surge in pensions credit claims means that fewer pensioners will be negatively affected by the fuel payments cut.

Bad news: Labour will still have to search somewhere else for the savings, and will have incurred a massive political cost for nothing. Unless it was their plan all along to raise such a ruckus about it so more people would claim the pensions credit they were eligible for (I highly doubt that, they’re not some Machiavellian chess grandmasters).

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I agree on the political cost, seems a waste of political capital for little gain this early in a new government. Regarding the savings themselves, i think they were meant to be more symbolic than anything - of a government willing to take hard decisions on how its money is being spent, and make sure the most in need is getting more help.

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Im sure I read somewhere (don’t know the exact figures), people on full state pension with no other income, wont qualify for winter fuel allowance.

People on reduced state pension, ie haven’t contributed enough to qualify, can apply for pension credit, which then takes their income above that of the full state pension, and get the winter fuel allowance.

Seems illogical if correct

@Dane was this it ?

I have sympathy for that, but should someone who stands as a party MP, wins as a party MP, and then serially rebels against everything the party does once in power really be said to be representing their constituents?

Copied from above post - This might be the reference

Jeremy says Hi Mascot

One example of why she might be rebelling.

https://x.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1840068031411581065?t=6fRxruU5Fzqb8BGvao7SlQ&s=03

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I guess there are two ways of looking at it:

  • Labour made promises after getting into power that they had no intention to honour.
  • Labour made promises before realising how deep a pile of shit the fiscal situation is thanks to the previous government.

Think people will mostly pick the ones they want to see from this, unfortunately.

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Yes, scrapping tuition fees may still be the goal but considered not deliverable right this minute.

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Unless she mentioned it in her letter then i think very much think it unlikely.

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Maybe covered under “many last straws”

Dont think so. That seems independent of policy conflicts.

You’ve managed to make that look like you know, when in fact like me you have no idea and are just guessing :rofl: