UK Politics Thread (Part 3)

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What’s more jarring than the large amount of MP’s (mostly Tory, but some Labour), is the ‘Gentlemen’s Club’ of protecting, or at least not condemning, the behaviour of their peers. Particularly horrible when the sitting PM ignores it.

Labour have found rot within the party, not just in relation to sexual misconduct. They seem to be quite expedient in ensuring the case is handled through the correct channels rather than sweeping it under the rug. I am happy that there’s a party that sees what happens in Westminster behind closed doors - regardless of party - is not OK.

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I don’t think that’s quite true. The extent of sexual abuse allegations with parliament is staggering. It’s way more than would be expected within wider society.

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For the benefit of @Dane

I CONDEMN SEXUAL MISCONDUCT AND HOPE THE LABOUR PARTY EXPEL THE INDIVIDUAL IF FOUND GUILTY.

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That’s the spirit, but you know as well as I do that wasn’t the point I was making.
Let’s leave it at that, you’re voice must be hoarse from all that childish shouting.

Just wondering if you’re keeping score?

I have no doubt that there is no-one on these forums who would condone that behaviour and doesn’t condemn it.

My point was simple, if that hadn’t been a Labour MP (ie Tory), posters would’ve swarmed to this thread to vigorously condemn it.

And those even vaguely favourable to the party………

It’s probably because with the tories it’s an almost monthly event, whereas the other parties might get one a year.

Same as daily mass shootings in Ametica get a commentary, but this from South Africa probably flew under the radar in here.

When something is seen as a culture like with the Met it becomes part of the narrative moreso than one off events in other police forces.

When Labour were having issues with the culture of antisemitism under Corbyn it was rightly called out and discussed.

If the tories don’t want us piling in on their weekly sex scandal, perhaps they should be teliing their MPs to keep their collective dicks in their pants?

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What does that say about you that you keep him as ‘your GP’. Dear God!

It says that my wife likes him……. Round here, if your GP is capable of getting up, dressed and staying sober till at least lunchtime, you’re better off than most.

Always thought that a qualified nurse would be a far better (and cheaper) first port of call. Being able to see a doctor whenever you want is an incredible luxury and rarely needed. A few on here have had very serious issues personally and in the family which requires the experts. Mostly it’s kids with a temperature or won’t stop crying (calpol and go away), people with a cough (cough on, if it’s not gone in 2 weeks come back) and the endless stream of old people for whom the diagnosis is “you’re old”.

I find it more troubling the problems alluded to with the complaints process…

EDIT: To make it clear, I think if there is sufficient evidence to compel it, he should be facing criminal charges, but I just find it thoroughly dispiriting that it seems that (a) the person accused has not yet faced any consequences, not even suspension, and (b) the victim didn’t even bother going through the complaints process because she had no confidence in it whatsoever. I think the latter speaks volumes.

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There is the deeper issue here about addressing the cause rather than putting a plaster on it. CO2 production isn’t going to go down any time soon so some people are just going to have to move. Sad but true. Another few billion from the government. Good job the money’s free.

Are there actually any schemes to move people, or are we leaving it up to the free market as per usual?

Are you offering to pay?

Hopefully the shadow minister, if he’s guilty is expelled from the party. There is a link in that Guardian article about a sexual harassment case that wasn’t dealt with after 3 years which I find shocking. IF this is indeed a loophole where frontbench aides cannot be held accountable for sexual harassment then it really needs to be addressed:

If you are going to spend money, spending it on flood defence is one of the best things you can do. In terms of fiscal multiplication it is out there on its own. Something like eight pound returned to the economy for every pound spent.

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The problem with that is that in most of the Western world, some of the most vulnerable land is also some of the most valuable, and privately held. This reaches the extreme for property like North Carolina beach houses, where property owners expect the Army Corps of Engineers to funnel tens of millions every year into keeping a beach in place. But it is broadly true of anywhere in a flood plain. If you have purchased property or built in a flood plain in the last generation or so, this should have been an assumed risk. Why should the broader public bear those costs?

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Fair shout calling bias but I also think that it’s fair to understand the following.
The government have been in power for 13 years and have been awful in that period. The only thing they have achieved is staying in power, ripping off the tax payer and hiding it. They’ve been found out time and again. That is right drawing criticism.
Secondly they are the government, they make the decisions. A little more difficult to criticise an opposition party when they take no part in the decision making process.
Thirdly I think @deneb is right. Tory’s are definitely in lead on scandals.