Not just that, he was also found guilty by the Supreme Court of lying to the Queen.
So it begs the question, if someone if found guilty of lying to both the Head od State and to Parlament, then is that person fit to be an elected official?
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Most of the people that had ever worked with him knew he was unfit for any position of responsibility at all. They warned anyone that would listen beforehand.
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Re: David Cameron
2010 : āIf we win the election, we will take a lead on this issue (lobbying by ex-ministers) by making sure that they are not allowed to use their contacts and knowledge ā gained while being paid by the public to serve the public ā for their own private gain.ā
2021 : In 2021, Cameron writes, āI was contracted to work for Greensill Capital for 25 days per year.ā He explained that his responsibilities included āhelping to win new business, speaking for the company at conferences and events, and helping with plans for international expansion.ā
As well as sending texts to chancellor Rishi Sunak and other senior treasury figures, it emerged in the Sunday Times that Cameron took finance boss Lex Greensill for a āprivate drinkā with health secretary Matt Hancock in October 2019.
2020 (Two years after the murder of Khashoggi) : that year he had gone on a camping trip in Saudi Arabia with Lex Greensill and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the latter believed by US intelligence agencies to have ordered the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi in October 2018.
Cameron revealed : āWhile visiting the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in January 2020ā¦I also ā with Lex Greensill ā met with a range of business and political leaders, including Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.ā He added: āGreensill planned to open a new regional office in Riyadh as part of its international expansion and I wanted to assist in this effort.ā
It has been reported Cameron stood to gain Ā£5m for his efforts.
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And yet the public still elected him.
Have said it 1000 times, but democracy doesnāt work, and this just proves it
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Democracy means more than having elections. East Germany had elections, they actually called themselves the āDemocratic Republicā, and yet it was little more than a prison state that had to erect walls and wire fences patrolled by armed guards to stop the population from escaping.
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Put in any other form of government, if you are found guilty of lying to both parlament and the HoS, you would likely hang.
BoJo on the other hand, will no doubt get some cushy media position being paid absurd amounts of money to continue peddling his lies to serve his own agenda
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I doubt heāll return to journalism ā¦ whoād have him ?
But heās already the new darling of the right in the US , and thatās where the real money is. In his defence , he was over there recently trying to stiffen resolve amongst Republican congressmen for their continuing support of Ukraine.
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With the advent of ChatGPT there will be increasingly fewer opportunities for hacks that make up bollocks for the papers.
I think youāve answered your own question.
Fox would no doubt jump at the chance to parade him as their headline twat
I was actually talking about speaking engagements for right-wing think tanks and the like. I think heās already been paid $500,000 for one such engagement.
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Iām always curious as to who pays for this. Iāve heard Johnson speak. He is a truly awful public speaker. If you wanted a politically incorrect middle-aged twit you can get Jeremy Clarkson for much less and he is both professional and witty. He doesnāt have anything interesting to say about statesmanship. He is a known liar and his political career has been one extended car crash so he has nothing of note to talk about.
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I do hope that people realise that a tree died to publish that crap.
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Itās funny that you mention that because actually it wasnāt the Owen Patterson affair , or the by-election defeats , that finally did for him with the Tory faithful , but more the disastrous āPeppa Pigā speech that he gave to the CBI. Apparently that was the straw that broke the camelās back.
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āI doubt heāll return to journalism ā¦ whoād have him ?ā
Oh yeah , I forgot about that lot. 
I appreciate this issue is somewhat subjective. But being PM doesnāt by itself mean that the person has brains or charisma. Getting to be PM is as much about opportunity, fashion and presentation as it is personal attributes.
Cameron got to be leader of his party from a very poor pool of alternative candidates.
Conservatives are pretty much nailed on to get about a third of votes in an election regardless of who their leader is. Cameron was up against Brown - a proven intellect who wasnāt charasmatic and whose party had pretty much exhausted itself in government.
May became PM because there was almost no-one else running against her. Goveās ābackstabbingā of Boris took them both out, Fox had been caught in a scandal where he had taken a partner or friend on a work trip but I think had the government pay for him. That lead to a run off between May, a high profile Minister and Leadsom - whoās only role of note was two junior ministerial roles, as a PA for some firm in the City (a role which she embellished) and appearing on Newsnight where her defence of austerity was absolutely shredded by Paul Krugman.
Truss does not appear either Charismatic or smart, and Iām not sure whether Sunak is either.
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I reckon this could be shortlisted for Understatement of the Millennium.
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I was just about to say the exact same thing !
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In fairness, I was forgetting Truss. As I suspect we all want to.
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My impression of May is that she became PM out of a sense of duty rather than ambition. It was quite clear at that point that no politician of ambition was going to own that shit-show.
Iāve recently heard an interview with the former Irish President, Mary McAleese, who did indicate that May appeared to understand what the problems were that she was dealing with and also that there were no good solutions - only necessary compromises.
Iām not fussed on Mayās politics otherwise but I do think she was a serious politician.
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