The new shadow cabinet under Kemi Badenoch🙈.
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So are you happy to accept that “gammon”, “Gammon Tendency” may have been coined before Dickens?
Are you happy to accept that Dickens use of the word is different to what you originally implied?
Is it open to debate that Aboriginal people, used the word Gammon as a reference to skin colour?
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Isn’t it ironic that your post provides support to the points I raised in my response to your original post.
no but it is boring…
i get you like playing ‘devils advocate’, flirting with opinion without committing to it, but honestly…Gammon…not a racist term, its been pointed out before…
and even if you can pinpoint some small relationship with it being so…from…what now…australian indigeanous culture (i mean FFS!!!)…honestly, the guy saying it didnt mean it in that way…
its boring…about the most intelligent said on it in the last few days IS the Jack Nicholoson Meme above…fucking boring…
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Reading your post it appears you have good knowledge in this area. I admit, I have little.
My understanding is that Student loans are provided by the Government, is that correct. If so how are they levied/financed?
I read a piece that stated, that in 2019 Labour alleged that there was £8.6bn owed in interest by Students on their loans, I don’t have a figure for total debt - inclusive of loan.
So by increasing Tuition fees are they not increasing their upfront spending - I expect they will have taken into consideration the extra monies coming in from students who do not qualify for SL.
Additionally, by having this debt on the books, is it not away of clever accounting?
Hang on, you are assuming I am posting in defence of a poster. I also didn’t bring up the reference to an Australian Indigenous Culture, so FFS read the posts. Also, you will see that I questioned, I didn’t state. I have allowed @RedWhippet the right to respond, not shut him down or say he is wrong.
People have a right to an opinion, if they feel it is racist who are you to disagree and just because it has been pointed out before, by people whose views align with your’s does that mean it is right?
It’s been pointed out that 52% of the people voting in Brexit chose to leave, so do you imply the same logic.
Maybe I am playing Devils Advocate, but maybe that’s the only choice I have. What are you afraid of? Actually forming your own opinion and discussing it, maybe it is easier to be a ‘Ralph’ and point at the pretty pictures. Hopefully, Santa brings you a box of crayons for being a good boy.
Ya are the ‘gammon’ facts really cast iron facts or just references found to backup your side of the beliefs? Is it as cast iron as the fact that Liverpool is the best club in the world? If not, why couldn’t people discuss it or oppose it? That they need to stop discussing the opposite view and accept that what is presented as facts are facts, not just strong opinions? Granted that Klopptimist seem a little bit over the top, trying to nail people down rather than discussing but Lynch posts have not been disrespectful or antagonistic in any way.
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Please sir, how do we do the red writing?
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I believe it’s a Teacher privilege. 
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I don’t think so? When you do a post, you can bold/italic/etc. and one of the options in the second row is a colour palette for the text, though you have to enter the code for the colour you want.
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It was just a reference to my School days. When they pulled out the red pen, you knew you were in trouble 
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what are you banging on about now?
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But that opinion should be based on facts, not plucked out of the air.
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Unpopular opinion perhaps but I never felt that way with Sunak. True, he’s a guy from extreme privilege with a lack of awareness of normal people’s struggles (PayTV-gate), but he never carried on with the absolute nastiness that folks like Kemi and Priti hold.
I do though absolutely agree in general with your description of how the Conservatives operate with their minority MPs.
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Suella Braverman is definitely a gammon.
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As I said above, bit racist to assert someone with dark skin cannot be flushed with rage.
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This.
Or at the very least formed from reliable information that is understood.
It’s becoming a massive issue today imo, where everyone is entitled to opinions but the internet gives every opinion the same weight.
That is dangerous and is leading to the increase in discrediting of subject experts and the rise in conspiracies.
And people make a living from pushing bs. How can that be?
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I would suggest that if you called a jew or muslim a gammon you could possibly be on dodgy ground so do you have to be selective who you call a gammon? Would you be entirely comfortable calling a jewish member of the Conservative party a gammon?
Toby Perkins is the Labour MP for Chesterfield and here is what he thinks…
“Gammon is so obviously a racist slur, that I can’t understand why people who generally decry racism think its ok to use it. Whether you consider the people being mocked to be discriminated against generally has nothing to do with whether using it is racist”.
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Toby Perkins is talking out of his arse.
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