UK Politics Thread (Part 4)

There are many fairly fucking gross Mandelson E-Posts. Very many. Some interesting pictures too.

However, in my eyes, this is the most pathetic one. Because it shows that Epstein was very frustrated at his very many requests and that their friendship was a one way street. It shows that Epstein felt, dare I say it, exploited by him.

Maybe it is just me, but it is some how even more damning for me than if he was generous with Epstein.

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" Supported your boyfriend when he needed it…"
Is ā€˜hidden’ code for the vast amount of money Epstein put into the boyfriend’s bank account…

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No it is not alone, I completely agree, which I have alluded to. The conditions that allowed them to proceed were all different, all had agendas, not aligned to a single race, belief or economic view.

You are correct the Holocaust is not alone in terms of Genocides, my objection was to Mascot comparisons of present day UK to Nazi Germany. :+1:t2:

Fair enough.
I didn’t expect a response as it would require you to defend the points where I questioned you. It is easier to avoid by dismissing the value of my opinion and let other peoples comments speak for your own. Thats unlike you, especially when you are always right.
Anyhow, no ill feeling, all the best :+1:t2:

For the record you still managed to quote part of my post and respond. But then again, I suppose you originally didn’t want to get involved but still did.

So is current Germany in a similar place to 1930s Germany?
Or should I simple down my questions and ask what is you favourite Mr Men book?

I’m not going to bother to explain it for the third time.

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It’s funny (Divine Comedy funny, not haha funny)…

All of the Leave gammons would be the first to scream blue murder about ā€˜the pedos!!!’ and yet their strings have been pulled like marionettes by the very cabal they purport to loathe.

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Yeah @Magnus posted one such email in that thread.

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Other people have exactly the same experience of talking to you about politics. It’s a total waste of time. You don’t read or understand the points put to you. You reply with totally irrelevant points. I’m not on my own here.

Other people have tried to explain this to you so I’m not expecting much, but I’ll have one more crack.

The nazi party that rose in popularity through the late twenties and finally took power in the early thirties, was not the same as the one you’ve seen in the films. They didn’t sweep to power with a manifesto based around gassing the Jews, annexing half Europe and starting a war that would kill 20million people.

The way they got in power was to appeal to national pride and populism. They reached out to people who were poor and broken and told them it was the fault of a minority. They talked about putting their ā€˜own people’ first. They divided communities, showed disregard for domestic and international law and boasted about tearing up the old order to make the country great again.

The Nazi Germany that is being compared to the UK in 2026 is not the mid forties, genocidal, war machine. It’s the version that came to power in the early thirties.

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@Mascot I’ve got brick wall you can borrow if you ever feel like banging your head… :roll_eyes:

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There’s a gif for that but this case we have actual history versus a made up one.

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The problem is that I have found that it requires just too much time consuming work to reach Lynch, which is why I usually dont engage. I think its possible to reach him (maybe), but it requires extremely time consuming sourcing, correct pedagogic approach, as well as research to do so, because his posts are usually all over the place.
Extremely often i read his posts here and my fingers twitch as I want to respond. But its a huge undertaking so i end up never doing it, since I would have to use 100 percent correct (for him) methodology and pedagogy to persuade him with facts, and that is simply too much work, as I doubt he would read everything sourced to him and likely distrust the source as well.

Blessed be @RedWhippet and @redfanman. I have noticed they sometimes try with great patience while others understandably are more caustic.

For what its worth, I will never come at Lynch as an attack dog, like I have done in the past to a couple other posters, i just ignore the long winded non-informative posts instead. I have read Lynch for years, and he isn’t really, at least wasnt, an asshole. He just has a terrible filter (imo) and is argumentative like hell even though he lacks knowledge. Something has changed in the last 2 years though. He wasn’t always this exhausting and lost in a Right Wing trope media bubble.

But I canot be bothered unless it is something extremely note worthy. Blessed be you who are patient enough to go around in endless circles.

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Too soon?

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Welcome to Starmer Labour and doing politics differently.

Well maybe a level of incompetence never seen and a cover up of Labour corruption.

Maybe the Conservatives wasted 14 years but this! We need new politics. Or no politics at all. Power corrupts. They are all self serving.

Sorry that trophy still sits with the Tories along with the corruption.

But yeah this is still shit.

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All of them. That the issue. Left right. Middle. Mandelson got caught. Maybe Boris, Tony B etc did not. It’s ruinous to the core. And they run the country.

So we get Farage. Chancer in the extreme. Jump on a popular cause.

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